It's especially sad... think of all the car models that once were, which are now no longer in existance... There are groups within certain collectible car groups which track down certain model... two examples I know of: Buick Grand Nationals... there is/was a group which tracked down every one ever produced by vin# and this group can tell you which ones are still out there, crashed, recycled, etc. Saab Monte Carlo, similar, only Saab's records weren't as good and thus no one knows really how many are left. Makes me wonder (and yes I'm not getting off topic here!).... it would be truely interesting if a group got started to track down differnt Imperial years to see what's left, and what isn't- kind of like the Buick Grand National group- only maybe not as extreme (i.e. no one would need to know when the cars crashed.. but rather the fact that X many have crashed, Y many are still on the road, etc.). It would be quite interesting to see which ones are the hardest to find. Wouldn't surprise me if the 90's Imperial (AC Body) is as rare (or more so) then the '83... Sorry if I went a little OT, but I needed some way of explaining what was in my head... --- Mark McDonald <tomswift@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jim, > > Thanks for that info. Kind of sad, to me, to think > that %90 of the 68s > are gone. > > I do think while those statistics may be true in > general, some cars are > exceptions. For instance, convertibles, and/or the > first and last model > of anything. I think people tend to preserve rarer > bodystyles, or if > they think the car will be more valuable later on. > The reason I say > this is, there seem to be an awful lot of '68 > convertibles out there. > > Jim Gathmann wrote: > > > Actually, the '71 car would be about as rare (if > not > > more rare) due to the rate in which cars are > > destroyed. > > > > Once I had stats on the % of cars which survive > after > > production. It basically came down to a small > majority > > of cars of a specific model (+/-65%) will be > destroyed > > within the first decade after production. > > > > By two decades, that number is up to +/- 80% > destroyed > > since production date (also- destroyed referes to > > being crashed, sent to a junk yard, recycled, > etc.). > > > > By three or more decades, about 90% of the cars > made > > since production date are gone. Fogret if those > > numbers are right (going by memory- had it all > nicely > > done up on a poster once). > > > > So if you really think about it, your '83 is far > more > > common then the 1987 Reliant KPL21 sedan (2 door), > as > > only 200 of those were made originally! (as seen @ > > www.allpar.com). > > >