Re: {Chrysler 300} 61 starter recommdations

In theory as long as there is conductive metal between the battery and a device, such as a starter, it is grounded. But the quality of that ground may be insufficient for a starter which draws a lot of amps. I would definitely try connecting a beefy ground down to the block and see what happens. It can be a temporary ground as an experiment.

The heavier the gauge the better.

On Jun 27, 2024, at 2:33 PM, Michael Marmorale <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thank you this is a good point. I have the ground attached to the top of the ac compressor. Should I attach it directly to the block?

When it’s hot the starter barely cranks it moves to motor a fraction of a turn then stops. I have been looking for a local rebuilder. The one I used to use closed down a few years ago.

Michael Marmorale

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Please excuse errors.

On Jun 27, 2024, at 12:17 PM, Charles Schoendorf <cschoend@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I recently read a booklet on hard starting and it emphasized not to overlook the ground from the battery to the block near the starter motor. The circuit is only as good as the weakest link, which is often the ground. Going up on the gauge (lower number) is something to consider at both poles. Car manufacturers use cables in miles of length and I suspect they go as small a gauge as they can to save costs.

I added a 00 gauge ground cable to a car from the battery in the trunk, all the way up to the engine block. It made a big difference. But any improvement in grounding has to be worthwhile. Then I upgraded the battery grounds in a couple of 6 Volt Hemi cars and they seem happier too.

Chuck

On Jun 27, 2024, at 11:40 AM, Keith Boonstra <kboonstra.zeegroup@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This seems like an awfully elementary suggestion, but are you sure that your timing is optimal? A little too much advance could give you pre-ignition resistance to starting when hot.

Keith Boonstra

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On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:13 PM Michael Marmorale <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello all I got the G running and driving! Finally.

It is very hard to start when hot, the starter barley turns the motor over. Cranks fine cold, and I just put in a new group 27 battery.

It feels like the starter is tired.

Is there a high torque starter that will bolt onto the bellhousing? I’m running the cast iron torqueflite.

Any recommendations?

Thanks Mike

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