A few more hardtop thoughts, since I'm a little obsessive about them... > second, there is a hard, steel "post" going from the floor pan to the > roof rail; and third, the rear door hinges/mounts to this "post,"(excluding > the 'suicide' rear door of the 1961-1969 Lincoln Continental). Not that this is Imperial-related, except in the broader context of luxury cars, but there were no 4-door hardtop Continentals after 1960. The non-convertible 4-doors, from the suicide-door '61s to the last Continentals with frameless glass in 1979, all had full B-pillars. > On a "true" hardtop, structurally, there is no "complete B post" from the > floor pan to the roof rail, nor is there any metal frame around the > window(s). [Today, or in past 25 years, "Detroit' & the advertising media > have used the term hardtop when they were actually referring to the two door > sedan coupe, on either of 2 models: the front door is that of the old > hardtop style, but there is a full/solid "B post" (really, a hardtop sedan > coupe---say a 1975/6 NYB coupe... There is no structural pillar in an NYB of this era, even with the St Regis roof treatment. It's just vinyl trim simulating a pillar and a rivet in the window regulator preventing the quarter window from rolling down. In other words, it's a concealed hardtop! > In the 1970s, FOMOCO used a variation of this body style, called the > "Pillared hardtop sedan/coupe." Ford was the first of the Big 3 to drop 4-door hardtops. The pillared hardtops were really just sedans with frameless door glass, and none of the big Fords, not even the low-line Custom 500, had framed glass from 1973 to 1979. Ford stuck with their 2-door hardtop Grand Marquis until 1978, however. Subaru and a few others still use this style. In fact, Subaru considers it a styling trademark and calls it "hardtop-style doors." Only two true hardtops remain, both from the German side of DCX (and one of them not coming for a few more months). Chris in LA 67 Crown 4dHT 78 NYB Salon 4dHT