What's in a name?? I readed all the arguments and discussions and it seems that there are no answers. I agree that a NAME/symbol should hold a rank or in the case of the Imperial -prestige. But the almighty dollar is a stack , and to market a car as new yorker /labaron of the late 80's seems profitable- and that's what it really comes down to -unfortunately! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:30 AM Subject: Re: IML: odd LeBaron/branding question > > It all comes down to marketing - what image do you want the public to have > of your product, and what comes to mind when the public thinks of a name or > sees a symbol. > > Chrysler wanted people to think of the LeBaron as an upmarket vehicle - > basically a mini-New Yorker. The New Yorker had taken the Imperial body > styling and made it a profitable proposition. It was obvious the car itself > was not the problem. So why not take the LeBaron name and the eagle and > place them on the new smaller Chrysler sedans? Just as with the New > Yorker, it worked. The M-body LeBaron was a success from day one. > > At the time the LeBaron was coming to market Chrysler had no intention of > using the Imperial name again. Somehow or another, during the development > of the second generation Cordoba, the idea popped up. But by that time both > the LeBaron name and the eagle were firmly entrenched in the public's mind > as Chrysler's small sedans. Actually, very few remember the Imperial, but > with the LeBaron, the opposite is true. I got a parking ticket a few weeks > ago and the person who wrote the ticket put the make of my car as "Mercury". > Figure that one out. > > Bill > Vancouver, BC > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nat Hall" <nathall@xxxxxxxx> > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:55 PM > Subject: Re: IML: odd LeBaron/branding question > > > > [...] > > > > >model, right back to 1951. In 1973 the ring became a wreath and appeared > on > > >the last full-size Imperial in 1975. It would not appear again until the > > >1977 Chrysler LeBaron and, as a result, was not used on the 1981-83 > > >Imperials. It appeared for one final round (so far) on the 1990-93 > Chrysler > > >Imperials . > > > > > >Bill > > >Vancouver, BC > > > > [...] > > > > OK, what you said makes a lot more sense. I was just about to quesion the > > whole "LeBaron" thing since, as you pointed out, *ALL* Imperials used this > > symbol as the division "logo" for a long long period of time, LeBaron or > > not. > > > > But my quesion still remains: why was this symbol used on the 77-81 > > *Chrysler* LeBaron? I am assuming simply because there was no Imperial > line > > at the time, and the LeBaron was formerly an Imperial model? Maybe > Chrysler > > was trying to attract customers to it's "new" LeBaron, based on a familiar > > logo used on former LeBarons? Perhaps that's the case, but that seems a > > little like GM discontinuing the Cadillac division (albeit unlikely) and > > then reintroducing a former Cadillac nameplate, say, the Cimmarron (for > > those of you who remember it) or Catera as a Chevrolet model but using the > > old Cadillac wreath and shield logo on the car instead of the traditional > > Chevy crosshairs. The whole thing seems very silly to me. > > > > > > ------------------- > > Nat Hall > > 1982 Imperial Coupe > > 1987 Chrysler New Yorker > > http://newyorker.digital-forever.com > > ------------------- > > > > ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- > This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please > reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be > shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the > Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm > > ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm