RE: IML: Starter in a '66 Coupe

["Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx>]

I missed the start of this discussion, but have you ever found out what the
guy meant by "flat spot"?  

Reason I ask is that 60's and later Mopars are famous for having problems
with the starter relay, and the cure is simple, cheap and easy.  The
diagnosis is also simple, free and easy.  

If your symptom is that there is no reaction at all, or merely a "click"
when you turn the key, then you need to bypass the relay to see if that will
make the starter crank.  If your problem is the common Mopar starter relay
failure, the car will start right up when you do this (if the key is on),
and you know you need to replace the relay, which will set you back all of
$30 MAX.

The two points to short together are the battery + terminal and the large
wire that leaves the relay to go down to the starter.  I believe the second
wire is brown, and at least a #12, or maybe even a #10 - it's BIG, anyway.
(I'm color blind, so don't trust me on the color, but it is the only BIG
wire on the relay.)  You can also do this with a properly positioned
screwdriver, but if you don't know which terminals to short, a jumper wire
is easier to figure out.  This will draw a spark when you do this, but it
can't hurt you, it's only 12 volts!

If your symptom is something other than this (like for instance the starter
spins but doesn't engage the ring gear), then don't bother about this, your
problem is in the starter or ring gear.

Dick Benjamin


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris "Creesto"
Lynch
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:39 PM
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Subject: IML: Starter in a '66 Coupe

Went to pick up my '66 Imperial Crown Coupe after the tranny was rebuilt,
and it wouldn't start. Mechanic said perhaps the starter had  "a flat spot"
What does this mean? He suggested if that was the case then eventually I
would need to replace it. Now, my car is stock. And I'm guessing that a
rebuilding the stock starter will cost more than a modern replacement. Is
this a part I can rebuilt myself? What specifically might be the bad
component within the starter?



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