Re: {Chrysler 300} AFB question
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Re: {Chrysler 300} AFB question



Hi.
I have now encounjtered two cars in my mopar collection where unbelievably somebody installed all the front wheel cylinders swapped R and L. (TWO cars) That puts bleeders at the bottom . And hoses are wrong length. Both moved the hose clip on frame, as hose was too short or hit. Both had gone to extreme effort to make a new line to connect the two wheel cylinders on the backing plate as that is totally different too. And one of them in bending it making his own line did that wrong so his new "better " line was scraping inside of the brake drum,almost worn through when I opened it. 

You cannot make this stuff up. Both cars were being driven. (!!!!) Both were impossible to bleed with bleeder on bottom. The one with the scraping line also had no rod from carb to transmission . It also had a PCV hose off a fancy valve cover running direct to the large vacuum fitting on 4 bbl, but no PCV valve at all , the thing on the valve cover was a wide open  90 degree elbow .Sorta looks right? Helps idle a lot ....

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 10:21 AM John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Must admit that I never 'RTFM' before rebuild over the years, which is why this is new and interesting to me.  I always looked at the kit instructions and/or just took things apart, cleaned, replaced parts with those in the kit, and did one half the carb at a time.  Learned that from doing brake jobs as a youngster.  Only do one side at a time in case you get lost or forget where/how something went on originally.  With brakes, the opposite side is mirror image, but at least you have something to go by as far as leading/trailing shoes, order of return springs, etc.  That still doesn't help if some previous owner had done things wrong years before you own the car though.

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 8:08 AM John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
it’s the gaskets! watch out ! can turn over or swap side to side , maybe there is better instruction now .. somewhere . This was long ago . 
I remember looking at impressions on old gasket , but wondering if they had been put in right . By someone else ,,- a mistake ?
Carb didn’t work right on sec as found as stated  , but however ,,after  i Figured it out , it was perfect after getting gaskets right . Big heads up to know about this issue . Then you figure it out .
Maybe if someone knows a carb is running well and  is torn down they take a magnified pic for good guy Mr Merritt to add to tech section — on this exact subject of venturi gaskets . 
jg 
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On Dec 5, 2023, at 7:45 AM, John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I see the 'bumps' or 'keys' on the bottoms, thanks.  That makes the instructions in the manual about keeping them oriented more mysterious to me, if they actually can't be put in incorrectly due to these 'bumps'?

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 5:35 AM Bob Merritt <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Here are pictures of the primary and secondary venturies.

You can see notches in the bases. Those notches mate with

locating bumps in the carb body.

They can not be installed right on left or left on right.

Bob



On 12/4/2023 7:29 PM, John Nowosacki wrote:
I was reading my 60 Service manual over the weekend, and I saw something interesting in the carb section on AFB rebuilding.  There were instructions highlighting the fact that the venturi assemblies were not interchangeable left to right.  Not an issue during any of my rebuilds over the years, as I always did one side and then the other, and did not have them both out of the carb at the same time when cleaning them and installing new gaskets, but since the gaskets seem identical, what is the difference between the left and right side assemblies?  Are there identifying marks/numbers on them anywhere?  Next time I take mine apart, I'd like to double check that they weren't switched side to side during some past rebuild before me, since I didn't acquire my car until 1998, some 38 years after it was originally put together.  I'm guessing that the written warning was there because the assemblies could be reversed in their positions and the carbs would still go back together, but would somehow be wrong and not operate as designed?
 
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