Hmmm... not gonna touch that subject line! :) It's funny, the '76-78 NYB brochures and all other Chrysler info lists the overall length at 231 inches, except some 1976 literature which shows 233.6. Considering the cars are virtually identical all of those years, the oddball number always puzzled me. The rear bumper guards are the most protruding part at the back end, and in front, it's the center of the "vee" of the front bumper, which protrudes beyond the front bumper guards in all those years (rendering the bumper guards relatively useless). I found out the NYB was longer than listed when I was test-fitting my cars in the garage after moving into my current house in 2001. My '67 Imperial (225.9") fit with about 8" to spare, so I figured the NYB would squeeze in with 3" left over, but when I put the NYB into the garage, I wasn't sure I'd be able to close the garage door. Thankfully, I have a 1950s-style solid wood door (not a roll-up, articulated type), and its structural supports run vertically. When the door closes, one of the vertical supports nests right between the bumper guards, which is what allows me to park a car that is actually larger than the garage floor's length to the bottom of the door. I measured the floor and the car is indeed closer to the odd 1976 measurement of 233.6" than the 231" listed. I can only think that, at the time they published the measurements every year, someone in accounting was considering making the rear bumper guards optional, but they ended up remaining standard each year. Or it was just a mistake. Or they used a rubber ruler! When garage hunting, don't forget width if you're looking at a one-car garage. I was thrilled many years ago to find a 22-foot-deep garage for my '67 that was also 96" wide. With the Imperial at roughly 80" in width, it seemed like an easy fit. Then I opened the door and realized that, from the outermost point of the door skin to the inside edge of the armrest, the overall door thickness was nearly a foot! If the '67s didn't allow you to operate the power windows with the key out, I don't think I could have exited the car. Only my lower leg could fit through the door opening as I did my most dignified impersonation of the Dukes of Hazzard, but I managed to work it for years. Chris in LA 78 NYB Salon 67 Crown -----Original Message----- From: Imperial59crown@xxxxxxx Sent: May 28, 2004 11:17 PM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: IML: Chris's is bigger than mine! Are you sure you NYB is 233 inches long? My '59 is 226, and would make it into my one car condo garage only if I cleared everything out of it including the garbage cans, and even then I would probably have to climb out of the window to get out of it. As Hugh wrote, when I go to purchase a new home whenever that time may come in this real estate gone crazy area of Southern California, garage space will definitely be number one on my list! A nice deep three car garage would be ideal. My Imperial has been sitting outdoors for some eight to ten years now, and once I get it repainted, outdoor parking will no longer be an option. Besides the car is rapidly approaching it's golden years, and is past the days of sleeping under the stars! Bill '59 Crown, still under the knife