At the annual Mopar Meet in Center Line, Michigan in the late '70s, Chrysler would bring their latest turbine application (I believe it was in a Volare or Aspen). They would perform the same trick. It wasn't just Packards or 8s. Packard/Cadillac V-12s and especially the Cadillac V-16 could pull this off with no problem. And, I suppose, many other cars of that era, including the big straight 8 Chyrsler. They idled at or below 400 rpm, had long strokes and low compression ratios. The engines weren't turning a lot of ancillary stuff, like power steering belts, pollution pumps, etc. Just a pure, big engine with a heavy flywheel. I've had a couple of flathead V-8 Cadillacs that could do this, even with the inherent unbalance of the V-8. The lack of noise outside the vehicle also is remarkable for these classic era cars. Inside, though, due to all the modern insulating techniques, modern cars (Lexus comes to mind) do extremely well. Engine noise at the source may be higher vs. classic era cars, but it surely is silenced once it gets into the cabin! Even the moderately priced Toyota Camry V-6 is excellent for low dbs. Currell >From: Mark Evans <evansma@xxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: IML: Balancing trick (was 63 Turbine Car) >Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:18:00 -0600 > >At 20,000rpm on a Packard? Don't think so.... :-) > >OK, OK, On older cars, was this simply a function of the lower >compression? My 51 Caddy was so incredibly smooth and quiet, you could >hardly tell it was running from 5 feet away. >--MarkE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Smith > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:28 PM > Subject: IML: Balancing trick (was 63 Turbine Car) > > > Ask Dick Benjamin: The following could be (and was) done with most of >the old Packard 8s in thge 30s and 40s. > > Bob > > Chris Boekhout wrote: : > > > One of the demonstrations they perform with the car is this nifty > > little > > trick : With the engine IDLING at 20,000 rpm, they place a nickel on >top > > of > > the engine, standing on edge- the engine is so vibration free that the > > nickel does not fall over, very impressive piece of machinery. > > > > Chris > > > > 72 Lebaron > > 71 Lebaron,etc.etc > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_virusprotection_3mf