Arron: I think you have hit the nail on the head. To start with, Cadillac had the name--if you were a "wannabe", anything other than a Cadillac would not do the job. In places where you wanted the luxury, but the hierarchy wouldn't allow it, you could have an Olds 98, or a Buick Roadmaster, Chrysler New Yorker, or Imperial, or Lincoln. Unfortunately, Chrysler failed to consistantly market Imperial as a 1) seperate car: 2) identifieable luxury line of an identifiable car. 3) anything at all. Chrysler did some strange things with styling in the early 60s, especially to Imperial. They were absolutely top drawer cars, but Imperial just didn't have the reputation to do the outlandish things Cadillac could pull off. Cadillac put the gold crest on Chevy Cavilers in the late 80s, and sold a bunch oif them. Cadillac has paid the price, but that had more to do with the fact the GM was keeping quality under control--anything is too good for our customers--than the terrible things they did to the name plate. Cadillac is still here, Imperial is gone--for now. Ford always kept Lincoln at the top of the line. Even when they bent reality with the Versailles, they outdid the Grenade platform it was totally and obviously based upon. The last Imperial was 2 door, wasn't it? Luxury car owners buy 4 door cars--they want a limo--or at least something that is comfortable for them and their also not so small or nimble friends. I tried a new LHS. I think it is ugly compared to the one called New Yorker back in 1995, but the competition is ugly, too. There is a reason people who drive $40,000 vehicles buy Suburbans and Town & Countrys--we can get in and out of them without pain. I see no point in buying something I hit my head on when I try to get into it. I have a customer who had been driving Mercedes for years. He merged his company with a couple other people I knew. I noted that he went to driving a Lincoln, and I asked him why. He said that he noted that when he took his Mercedes in for service, they seemed to blame him for breaking it. He had to stand in line watching others get the same treatment. His new partner, who drove a Lincoln, simply called the dealer, who came with a replacement, and appologized for the inconvenience, and swore not only should it not have happened this time, it wouldn't be happening again. The final straw was when he took a vacation in Europe and found his car used as a taxi. Compared to keeping a Mercedes on the road, in the condition where you might get some of your money back, the idea of driving a Lincoln until you are tired of the color, and simply taking the plate off and leaving it, is an economical proposition. I certainly hope that if Imperial is ever brought back again., it is on a fittingly superior car