D2 and those who are interested, The shoulder belts in my 68 attach at a mounting point in the back by the piller. They are quite long and are stowed by having "female" end up by the sun visor that they buckle to and a piece of elastic with a snap at the back end. They stay up nicely along the edge of the headliner. Mitch 68 4dht __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@xxxxxxxx! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/