At 06:01 PM 7/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: >The muscle guys always like to stroke a motor for the torque increase. Yes, stroking the engine is the easiest/cheapest way you can increase displacement, and thus torque. This is the reason why all GM 455's ended up with such long strokes. GM was looking for an easy-cheap way to increase their small block displacements, and the 3 455's were born. That's not how Chrysler did their business. When the 413 was enlarged, it was done the "right" way, by increasing the bore (harder but more effective in overall performance). The larger bore allows more space for larger valves and/or turbulence, and reduces piston speed (among other things). Both affect mid-upper range, but do not necessarily compromise the low end. >By the way, the bore to stroke measurements on an old straight eight >Chrysler, at least in the 40's, was 3 1/4'' by 4 7/8'' inches. Given the low operating speeds of these era engines, I am sure this was good choice. More modern engines benefit from oversquare dimensions (meaning larger bore than stroke). This is one of the reasons why the Hemis were buried in 1958 (in addition to cost, weight, etc). There was need for larger displacement engines, and the 392 reached the limit of how big it can get with descent stroke/bore ratio, as it was originally designed as 331 (or may be smaller, you 50's guys know better). D^2