Hello Gang; Since Phil and I are on the topic of the ethics of harvesting patch panels from donor cars I figured that I should steer the discussion in a more productive direction. Is there anyone out there that makes patch panels for Imperials or other large Chryslers? Since the main reason for cannibalising a roofed car to fix a convertible is usually due to the amount of rust in the vert's body I think that making patch panels available would cut down on the carnage. Going back to what we know about our favourite marque every generation of Imperial carried the same sheet metal, minus fins, over several years. For example the 1957 to 1963 models all had very similar fenders, door panels, and quarter panels over this period. The main differences were in the grille, the fins, and the jewellery. Likewise the 1964 to 66 models had similar contours between body panel over those years. At the same time we also know that each generation of car was more susceptible to rust in certain locations of the body then cars of another generation. If we know these things then we will know which patch panels to have produced for what areas of the car. For instance one series may be more prone to rotted quarter panels then to, say, rotted rocker panels. Another may have the floor rot out more often then the door bottoms. Of course any of our cars could have any of these problems but it would give us an idea of which sheet metal parts to have reproduced first for which cars. By far the most practical and economical parts to have made would be patch panels. Granted, this wouldn't help the poor soul with a badly crunched fender but fortunately those types of project are few and far between. For the vast majority of projects it would not make economic sense to have whole quarter panels or fenders reproduced. Best Regards Arran Foster 1954 Imperial Newport Needing A left Side Taillight Bezel and other trim parts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil" <hilljack7@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: Re: IML: Easy on the coupes!! > No, not suggesting that at all, and if the proposed parts car is damaged or > stripped to where it's no good for anything else, than why not? I'm just > saying, before someone strips or destroys a relatively complete coupe, think > about it a little bit first. I've seen this done to save several > convertibles, not just Imps, and it always makes me cringe just a little. > I've made doors for hardtops out of 4 door pieces, so this isn't exactly an > impossible task. And if you can't find a hardtop parts car, you may have no > choice! I've fixed hardtops and convertibles, using pieces from a 4 door, > and it's not that impossible of a task. Sometimes patching a door without > removing it, is easier than removing the door in the first place, don't > forget, you have to change the lock and re-adjust all the mechanisms too, > while at it! IF I can get away with patching the original door, its a lot > less work, sometimes, and you have saved an original piece of the car, > keeping it just a bit more original when done. > I remember well the days of musclecars being stripped and scrapped when they > were cheap, and now, they've went thru the roof! Same with most any old Hemi > car from the 50's. I'm not saying that only certain people are allowed to > have a nice car, that would be silly. What I am saying, is before you > destroy an Imperial coupe, think about it a little bit first. Once they are > destroyed, they won't be coming back, and for sure, they won't be making any > more. Lets just not cut up any Imperial for parts, without thinking. > > >> Are you suggesting that there are no two door parts cars out there for > Dan > > to use, especially over the three year period of 1964-66? You know, the > kind > > that have hit a poll, a gutted interior, or have the drive train stripped > > out. I have never suggested that he destroy a perfectly good car of any > body > > style, in fact if it were me I would be looking at making some patch > panels. > > > >