Re: IML: S.O.S. "60 Imperial windshield disaster, need glass and gasket

["jsadowski" <jsadowski@xxxxxxx>]

This stuff will help with minor scratches. Anything you can feel with a 
fingernail won't polish out.
John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jan Harmonson" <jharmonson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: IML: S.O.S. "60 Imperial windshield disaster, need glass and 
gasket


Hi

You mention "polishing" the glass. Is this an option? Are there products 
available that will allow polishing away maybe sand blasted damage?

Jan in Ojai, CA
1955 Sedan
1952 Suburban
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Kenyon Wills
 To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: IML: S.O.S. "60 Imperial windshield disaster, need glass and 
gasket


 Richard, don't beat yourself up further about this!!

 That glass is notoriously brittle.  I've talked with Lowell, and he 
doesn't bother with trying to ship his glass any more.  The stuff just won't 
survive shipping, and tweaking it on install can cause the same thing, 
although I did manage to take mine out using stocking feet from the inside.

 Getting a pro won't be enough.  You'll likely have to sit down and have a 
serious conversation about the stakes.

 I have glass in "good enough" condition.  It's in the attic and would 
likely need aggressive polishing for a really serious car - I pulled it and 
didn't pay real close attention to anything besides an absence of cracks at 
the time.

 I can conjure a gasket too.


 I read your words.  You read the manual.  You  then said "pulling the seal 
around".

 That implies to me that you were using a tool to do this.  I don't think 
that one really "pulls the seal around" in the classic sense that one would 
with most other standard gaskets.

 ---
 There is a seam in the seal that looks just like it's a molded line when 
you can, in fact, pry it apart and "hinge" the lip backwards and outwards, 
allowing you to drop the glass in without much physical drama.

 You did pull the seal's seam apart, spread it back, and have the inside 
edge pulled back to accept the glass, riiight?

 On most windscreen gaskets, they are one piece and you "pull" the lip out 
from under the glass around the glass in a semi-forceful manner.

 With the 1960 (and others) there is a ziplock-like component to the gasket 
design that you open with a butter knife, allowing the glass to be inserted 
with very little labor.  I used a pair of butter knives and there was very 
little drama or tension involved.


 I'm around if you want to talk.
 Sorry about your misfortune on that.
 Stuff's in CA.  You can likely do better?


 Oh, one other thing:  I use a giant vat of household vinegar as my rest 
removal tank.  The vinegar eats the rust and parts come clean with a garden 
hose and (sometimes) some steel wool.

 I have found (by accident) that leaving rubber parts in the vinegar for 72 
hours leaves them considerably more supple and soft.  The gaskets that go 
under mirrors were what led to this discovery - one fell in by mistake and 
went from feeling like stiff plastic to soft rubber.

 -Maybe superstition, but I plan to soak my windscreen gasket for that long 
after cleaning it and before installing it.  Can't hurt.







 -Kenyon
 I'm around if you want to talk
 415-699-8760

 richard burgess <lecrown60@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
   Hi Folks,

   Disaster struck today as my father and I were installing the windshield 
in my '60 Crown.  I had a perfect, yes flawless, correct '60 windshield and 
gasket for this car.  The windshield cracked while we were on the last 8" of 
pulling the seal around.  This is a frame up restoration of a 34,000 mile 
car and I am distraught wandering where I am going to find a replacement as 
nice as my original.  My perfect gasket was a bit cut up in the process as 
well.  We were being so careful, had everything taped off and followed the 
manual as well as anybody could.  Now we have a windshield on the curb and 
are just trying to get three tubes of windshield sealer off the car, I gave 
up trying to clean the gasket.  The '60 winshield has a bubble in the top 
unlike the later models which are reproduced.  I must find a perfect '60 
windshield for this car.  If anyone has any leads your help would be greatly 
appreciated.  Guess we'll call in professionals next time.........

   Richard Burgess
   Atlanta, Ga
   '60 LeBaron sedan
   '60 Crown sedan with gaping hole

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