RE: IML: EASY DISK CONVERSION IDEA FOR IMPERIALS !!!

[Paul Volkmann <blackplumcoupe@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'm looking at what's left of my '78 Newport. Thinking
the rear should bolt right in ... any problem would be
the driveshaft.
The front ... the upper? ball-joint is the very same
one, the lower is a matter of 'is it different? and
how much if so?'

Paul
'65 Purple Crown

--- bill parker <hemirr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Great thinking out loud.  I've been planning to try
> a '87 Dodge 2X4 truck 
> disc conversion to my Imperial, by mounting the
> entire knuckle and then 
> everything else.  The bolt pattern will be right, I
> don't worry about the 
> wheels centering on the hub register, having run
> many sets of mags and 
> custom wheels in the 60's that did not center on the
> hub, and the ball 
> joints are the correct sizes.  The biggest question
> then becomes the height 
> of the knuckle and the positioning of the spindle on
> it, compared to the 
> same things on the original drum brake knuckle, and
> then the positioning of 
> the steering arm.  They're may be other issues when
> I get into it, just have 
> to see.  Also I don't worry about the debate with
> those who don't want to 
> convert to disks, that's simple:  I DO!  I have the
> donor truck, but just 
> keep pushing it to the back burner while I work on
> more urgent stuff.  So 
> one of these days I'll post my findings.   And with
> your 4X4 idea, I see 
> your thinking, I know that you can put GM 80's 4X4
> stuff on a late 70's 
> Dodge 4X4 that has the FWD car type arrangment to
> upgrade that, so some of 
> that stuff does interchange.
> 
> 
> 
> Bill & Kathi Parker, South Central Indiana
> '56 Chrysler Windsor; '60 Chrysler Saratoga; '62
> Plymouth Max Wedge; '64 
> Dart convertible; '65 Barracuda \6; '65 Imperial;
> '68 Barracuda FB 340-S; 
> '69 Barracuda FB now 360; '70 Challenger now 440;
> '72 Cuda '340
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Longramx2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: IML: EASY DISK CONVERSION IDEA FOR
> IMPERIALS !!!
> >Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:14:12 EDT
> >
> >  I was performing a disk conversion on my 72 4x4
> power wagon, useing 79 
> >chevy
> >4x4 parts, when I got this idea, you see with the
> chevy parts you have a 
> >bolt
> >on spindle and every thing else bolts on to the
> spindle including the 
> >caliper
> >bracket so if you can mount the spindle on your
> imperial you then will have
> >disk brakes! my idea is to slide  the chevy 4x4
> spindle over top of the
> >imperial spindle, the chevy spindle is hollow and I
> believe would fit over 
> >the
> >imperial spindle shaft. then weld the flange of the
> chevy spindle to the 
> >imperial
> >knuckle, you might use some sort of sleeve like
> maybe a piece of tubing to
> >center every thing up. then its a bolt on deal
> after that ! but leaves the 
> >issue of
> >the long 4x4 snout sticking out, why not grind
> about 25 % of it off , the 
> >end
> >of it is made to facilitate a lock out for the 4x4
> which you dont need, 
> >after
> >its ground off simply plug the hole with one of
> those caps 4x4s use when 
> >they
> >dont have locking hubs. My 60 imperials original
> snout sticks out pretty 
> >far.
> >Any way as long as the hub caps clear is all that
> matters. Now the only 
> >issue
> >is the lug pattern. I originally was thinking
> useing 80s dodge 4x4 parts
> >would work, and give the same lug pattern, however
> I checked and the dodge 
> >4x4
> >caliper bolts to the knuckle behind the spindle, so
> you would have to 
> >fabricate
> >a way to mount the caliper to use that set up. It
> might be possible to use 
> >the
> >80s dodge hub and rotor with the chevy spindle and
> caliper, a lot of the 
> >4x4
> >stuff will mix between chevy, ford and dodge, if so
> that would be a very 
> >easy
> >conversion, but I have'nt tried it, so untill
> someone does try it we wont
> >know. Another idea is to have the hub and rotor
> drilled with the imperial 
> >lug
> >pattern, which does'nt seem to far fetched to me,
> and if all else fails 
> >imperials
> >certinally have room in the trunk for two spares. I
> have'nt tried this
> >conversion, and it will be some time before I'll
> have a chance to, so any 
> >of you who
> >want to try it let us know how it works. The 4x4
> stuff is beefy which is
> >exactally what our super heavy imperials need. And
> chevy 4x4 stuff is cheap 
> >and
> >plentiful. Plus unlike most other conversions,
> there should'nt be any 
> >steering or
> >suspension geometry problems since you're useing
> your original knuckle.
> 
> 
> 
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