The conversion package included a new cluster so you could keep the "fuel milage" function working. Apparently, there was no "sender" that would communicate with the original cluster that would also work in a carb application. Regards, DaveG. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Noska" <lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: RE: IML: 80's starting problems > Can any body tell me why the instrument cluster was changed when my car was > converted? > > Dads 82 > > Lawrence R Noska > lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Hauser, ID 83854 > > -----Original Message----- > From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Neil Thorpe > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 12:00 PM > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: IML: 80's starting problems > > Oh go on then I'll chip in. > > DB is on the money again as ripping off the EFi and adding an inferior carb > is silly unless the EFI is completely dead. When working correctly the EFI > cars > start and run very well. > > The air filter is not the only part of the induction that should be looked > at, > the inlet manifold must be sealed properly, the throttle body must also > be sealed well too, this is where one of the inherent problems lie > as the thick baseplate gasket has aluminium (I'm English you spell it how > you like) > spacers built into it so when it has been crushed for a few years it cannot > be retorqued for a better seal, the best way is to remove the HSA and the > throttle > body clean it all up and fit new gaskets with some sealant (just to make > sure). > > Plug wires and plugs must be as new, fuel filters must be the same too. > > Now on to the rest, how fast is the engine cranking? a bad battery or a > failing > starter motor will not help the situation, these mopar starters do crank > very > fast when good, if the starter is lacklustre this will not help the engine > start. > > My car had it's annual mandatory inspection today, the readings were as > follows: - > > CO 0.08 % vol (maximum allowable is 3.50 % vol) > HC 42 ppm vol (Maximum allowable 1200 ppm vol) > > The garage owner (an old colleague) said he was surprised at how low the > readings > were as new cars do not often read as low as the Imp did, praise indeed!!! > Neil Thorpe 82 Imp London England. > > p.s The other possible restriction in the fuel system could come from the > in tank filter sock that sits around the pick up. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:21 AM > Subject: IML: 80's starting problems > > > > The converted cars are basically standard 318 powered cars such as the New > > Yorker or 5th Avenue from the early to mid 80s. Thus they have their own > > set of problems, but most of those are due to the limitations of > carburetion > > (and the "spark control") in that era brought about by epa rules. > > Typically, they are somewhat balky in cold weather, and they don't produce > > the mileage of the EFI cars. They are certainly easier to keep running, > as > > just about all mechanics are very familiar with the cars. > > > > The EFI cars have advantages some of us are pleased with, and we are > willing > > to put up with the possibility of service problems due to the dealer and > > other mechanics not being at all familiar with the cars. The usual > defense > > against these problems is to learn how to keep them running ourselves. In > > my experience (I've had 3 EFI cars and one converted car), the occasional > > frustrating problem is well worth the extra effort it sometimes involves. > > > > As for durability and reliability, I'll cause a storm of protest with the > > following, but in my experience, the EFI cars, once straightened out, are > > rock solid reliable - we've driven ours all over the country and never had > a > > breakdown on the road. And we've never had to deal with a screwed up > > carburetor or a stuck choke either. > > > > Also, we've enjoyed 23 MPG plus (sometimes 25, and on one occasion, I got > > way better than that, in an attempt to see just how good it would do - at > 50 > > MPH on cruise, admittedly slightly downhill, and perhaps with a slight > > tailwind, I carefully topped up in Carson City NV, then drove to Fallon > NV, > > topped up again, both times letting the automatic click-off stop the > pump - > > I got 44 MPG!) > > > > But usually on trips, I drive between 75 and 80 MPH, and I average about > > 22-23 - this includes quite a bit of mountain driving, but very little > city > > driving. Around town, I average about 18. > > > > Now, I'll duck! > > > > Dick Benjamin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry Noska" <lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:41 PM > > Subject: RE: IML: My new '82 > > > > > > > As I have an 82 any and all starting problems interest me. Are the > > starting > > > problems just with the cars that haven't been converted?? > > > > > > Dads 82 > > > > > > Lawrence R Noska > > > lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Hauser, ID 83854 > > > > > > > >