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80's starting problems



The conversion package included a new cluster so you could keep the "fuel
milage" function working.  Apparently, there was no "sender" that would
communicate with the original cluster that would also work in a carb
application.

Regards,
DaveG.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Noska" <lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: IML: 80's starting problems


> Can any body tell me why the instrument cluster was changed when my car
was
> converted?
>
> Dads 82
>
> Lawrence R Noska
> lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hauser, ID 83854
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Neil Thorpe
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 12:00 PM
> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: IML: 80's starting problems
>
> Oh go on then I'll chip in.
>
> DB is on the money again as ripping off the EFi and adding an inferior
carb
> is silly unless the EFI is completely dead. When working correctly the EFI
> cars
> start and run very well.
>
> The air filter is not the only part of the induction that should be looked
> at,
> the inlet manifold must be sealed properly, the throttle body must also
> be sealed well too, this is where one of the inherent problems lie
> as the thick baseplate gasket has aluminium (I'm English you spell it how
> you like)
> spacers built into it so when it has been crushed for a few years it
cannot
> be retorqued for a better seal, the best way is to remove the HSA and the
> throttle
> body clean it all up and fit new gaskets with some sealant (just to make
> sure).
>
> Plug wires and plugs must be as new, fuel filters must be the same too.
>
> Now on to the rest, how fast is the engine cranking? a bad battery or a
> failing
> starter motor will not help the situation, these mopar starters do crank
> very
> fast when good, if the starter is lacklustre this will not help the engine
> start.
>
> My car had it's annual mandatory inspection today, the readings were as
> follows: -
>
> CO 0.08 % vol   (maximum allowable is 3.50 % vol)
> HC 42 ppm vol (Maximum allowable 1200 ppm vol)
>
> The garage owner (an old colleague) said he was surprised at how low the
> readings
>  were as new cars do not often read as low as the Imp did, praise
indeed!!!
> Neil Thorpe 82 Imp London England.
>
> p.s The other possible restriction in the fuel system could come from the
> in tank filter sock that sits around the pick up.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:21 AM
> Subject: IML: 80's starting problems
>
>
> > The converted cars are basically standard 318 powered cars such as the
New
> > Yorker or 5th Avenue from the early to mid 80s.  Thus they have their
own
> > set of problems, but most of those are due to the limitations of
> carburetion
> > (and the "spark control") in that era brought about by epa rules.
> > Typically, they are somewhat balky in cold weather, and they don't
produce
> > the mileage of the EFI cars.  They are certainly easier to keep running,
> as
> > just about all mechanics are very familiar with the cars.
> >
> > The EFI cars have advantages some of us are pleased with, and we are
> willing
> > to put up with the possibility of service problems due to the dealer and
> > other mechanics not being at all familiar with the cars.  The usual
> defense
> > against these problems is to learn how to keep them running ourselves.
In
> > my experience (I've had 3 EFI cars and one converted car), the
occasional
> > frustrating problem is well worth the extra effort it sometimes
involves.
> >
> > As for durability and reliability, I'll cause a storm of protest with
the
> > following, but in my experience, the EFI cars, once straightened out,
are
> > rock solid reliable - we've driven ours all over the country and never
had
> a
> > breakdown on the road.  And we've never had to deal with a screwed up
> > carburetor or a stuck choke either.
> >
> > Also, we've enjoyed 23 MPG plus (sometimes 25, and on one occasion, I
got
> > way better than that, in an attempt to see just how good it would do -
at
> 50
> > MPH on cruise,  admittedly slightly downhill, and perhaps with a slight
> > tailwind, I carefully topped up in Carson City NV, then drove to Fallon
> NV,
> > topped up again, both times letting the automatic click-off stop the
> pump -
> > I got 44 MPG!)
> >
> > But usually on trips, I drive between 75 and 80 MPH, and I average about
> > 22-23 - this includes quite a bit of mountain driving, but very little
> city
> > driving.  Around town, I average about 18.
> >
> > Now, I'll duck!
> >
> > Dick Benjamin
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Larry Noska" <lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: IML: My new '82
> >
> >
> > > As I have an 82 any and all starting problems interest me.  Are the
> > starting
> > > problems just with the cars that haven't been converted??
> > >
> > > Dads 82
> > >
> > > Lawrence R Noska
> > > lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Hauser, ID 83854
> >
> >
> >
> >


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