80's starting problems

["Larry Noska" <lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Can any body tell me why the instrument cluster was changed when my car was
converted?

Dads 82

Lawrence R Noska
lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Hauser, ID 83854

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Neil Thorpe
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 12:00 PM
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Subject: Re: IML: 80's starting problems

Oh go on then I'll chip in.

DB is on the money again as ripping off the EFi and adding an inferior carb
is silly unless the EFI is completely dead. When working correctly the EFI
cars
start and run very well.

The air filter is not the only part of the induction that should be looked
at,
the inlet manifold must be sealed properly, the throttle body must also
be sealed well too, this is where one of the inherent problems lie
as the thick baseplate gasket has aluminium (I'm English you spell it how
you like)
spacers built into it so when it has been crushed for a few years it cannot
be retorqued for a better seal, the best way is to remove the HSA and the
throttle
body clean it all up and fit new gaskets with some sealant (just to make
sure).

Plug wires and plugs must be as new, fuel filters must be the same too.

Now on to the rest, how fast is the engine cranking? a bad battery or a
failing
starter motor will not help the situation, these mopar starters do crank
very
fast when good, if the starter is lacklustre this will not help the engine
start.

My car had it's annual mandatory inspection today, the readings were as
follows: -

CO 0.08 % vol   (maximum allowable is 3.50 % vol)
HC 42 ppm vol (Maximum allowable 1200 ppm vol)

The garage owner (an old colleague) said he was surprised at how low the
readings
 were as new cars do not often read as low as the Imp did, praise indeed!!!
Neil Thorpe 82 Imp London England.

p.s The other possible restriction in the fuel system could come from the
in tank filter sock that sits around the pick up.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:21 AM
Subject: IML: 80's starting problems


> The converted cars are basically standard 318 powered cars such as the New
> Yorker or 5th Avenue from the early to mid 80s.  Thus they have their own
> set of problems, but most of those are due to the limitations of
carburetion
> (and the "spark control") in that era brought about by epa rules.
> Typically, they are somewhat balky in cold weather, and they don't produce
> the mileage of the EFI cars.  They are certainly easier to keep running,
as
> just about all mechanics are very familiar with the cars.
>
> The EFI cars have advantages some of us are pleased with, and we are
willing
> to put up with the possibility of service problems due to the dealer and
> other mechanics not being at all familiar with the cars.  The usual
defense
> against these problems is to learn how to keep them running ourselves.  In
> my experience (I've had 3 EFI cars and one converted car), the occasional
> frustrating problem is well worth the extra effort it sometimes involves.
>
> As for durability and reliability, I'll cause a storm of protest with the
> following, but in my experience, the EFI cars, once straightened out, are
> rock solid reliable - we've driven ours all over the country and never had
a
> breakdown on the road.  And we've never had to deal with a screwed up
> carburetor or a stuck choke either.
>
> Also, we've enjoyed 23 MPG plus (sometimes 25, and on one occasion, I got
> way better than that, in an attempt to see just how good it would do - at
50
> MPH on cruise,  admittedly slightly downhill, and perhaps with a slight
> tailwind, I carefully topped up in Carson City NV, then drove to Fallon
NV,
> topped up again, both times letting the automatic click-off stop the
pump -
> I got 44 MPG!)
>
> But usually on trips, I drive between 75 and 80 MPH, and I average about
> 22-23 - this includes quite a bit of mountain driving, but very little
city
> driving.  Around town, I average about 18.
>
> Now, I'll duck!
>
> Dick Benjamin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Noska" <lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 7:41 PM
> Subject: RE: IML: My new '82
>
>
> > As I have an 82 any and all starting problems interest me.  Are the
> starting
> > problems just with the cars that haven't been converted??
> >
> > Dads 82
> >
> > Lawrence R Noska
> > lnoska@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Hauser, ID 83854
>
>
>
>