Sounds like a ground problem. Check any place where a wire or cable bolts directly to the body or frame. I think you will find one that is loose and rusted or maybe where the battery ground bolts to the body. This will cause the power from the lights to "feed back" through any other system it can to find a ground. This probably is the same trouble as the shift button illumination. Try a short wire, grounded to the body and then touch the other end to the side of the turn signal bulb/socket. Check all the turn/tail light bulbs for proper bulbs. Russell Sullivan 1966 Crown Coupe 2 dr ht1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Crews" <rexcrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: IML: 1959 gear shift buttons > Hey, Group, > > I have a question primarily for your '59 owners out there, but would love to > hear from anyone about this. The gear shift indicator buttons will not > really illuminate on my dash board. I have, of course, checked and changed > the bulb and know it's working. I have removed and cleaned the buttons to > get the white film that forms on the old plastic off. Still, despite my > best efforts the buttons have only the very faintest illumination. On the > other hand the heat/ac buttons glow rather brightly. > > Has anyone else had this problem and can you correct it? And while we are > on the subject of '59's my turn signal indicators also glow slightly whether > the turn signal is on or not. This is true of both sides. If anyone can > help with this, please let me know. > > xoxox > > R > > >