At 04:22 PM 2/6/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Did you always let the engine run a long time when started up. Probably >needed to drive it to gent tranny heated up. > >I still think more damage is done to a car starting it like that. Mine stay >sitting unless I need to drive them worst wear is on start up and oil is >gone from walls in a few days at the most anyway. Very very well said. The transmission's source of heat is mainly the torque converter. If the car is not driven, there is no heat from the converter, and the water condensed will never boil out. Same with the engine oil. In addition to the dry start wear, the oil needs about 10 miles to reach operating temperature that will allow the oil and fuel to boil out. Frequent starts without driving, degrades the oil very much faster, which then accelerates wear. If a car is not to be driven for a while, the best is to disconnect the battery. The disconnected battery will drain much slower. If you have to start your stored Imperial, you may just as well take it for a spin (which may actually be a great excuse to drive it!). I like Dick's story about the revolutionary H2O transmission fluid! I think that the condensation theory as the reason for the demise of the transmission is still valid though. D^2