Re: R-12 to R-134a Retrofit; was Re: IML: Change Over for 1975 AutoTemp
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Re: R-12 to R-134a Retrofit; was Re: IML: Change Over for 1975 AutoTemp



Elijah:

Check the price of R134a.  Now about $8 for 12 ounces.

Henry

Elijah Scott wrote:
Brad Hogg <luxoliner@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Disassemble the system, take the hoses off, throw away the dryer (buy a new one) flush out the condensor, compressor, evapourator and lines using a proper AC system flush solution. Replace any incompatile O rings and hoses. Reassemble and fill with R-134a.
I agree with Brad's cousin.  I have converted both my '71 and my '70 Imperials to use R-134a with excellent results. 

I've been using R-134a in my '71 Imperial since 1999.  The compressor and hoses are original; the expansion valve and receiver/dryer had been replaced a couple of years prior to the conversion.  I did not replace any hoses or O-rings at the time of the conversion.  I used a $35.00 kit from WalMart that had an oil charge and refrigerant charge.  The system still has a sloooooooow leak, so I usually have to put 1 or 2 cans of R-134a in over the course of a year, but at $2.50 per can, who cares?  The system blows 36-40 degrees at the dash vents.

I did a few extra steps with the conversion on my '70 in 2003.  I replaced all the O-rings with new R-134a compatible O-rings (they're green and cost about $3.00 for a set); replaced the receiver/dryer with a new one that specificed R-134a compatibility; and cleaned all the hoses, condensor, and evaporater using denatured alcohol and compressed air.  I also removed and cleaned the expansion valve--similar to Chris Hawkins's experience, the expansion valve had some rust and trash blocking the screen.  Total cost for the conversion, including oil charge, gallon of denatured alcohol, O-rings, and refrigerant was well under $100.00.

As with most things, different cars will have different quirks to get the job done, but my experience indicates that Imperials cool exceptionally well with R-134a.

Best luck!

Elijah



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