I guess if it was important to you, you could engine dyno and tune for best HP andTQ then after putting it into the car , dyno at the rear tires and tune again for your particular parasitic loss. ...................MO On Oct 4, 9:03 pm, Doug J <63sprtf...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Seems to me, that the best use of a dyno is for tuning. The hp, tq numbers > are fairly arbitrary to me. Gives you a good ball park number though. > I've done a fair amount of testing with the Harley, mostly for tuning > purposes. I've got a big inch engine, big cams, ect, and thats a great way > to tune, as you can make changes in the same basic atmospheric conditions. > I wish it was as easy to put the '63 on a wheel dyno and get that thing > tuned to it's best. Ofcourse, the Harley is tuned with my laptop,,, as > opposed to a screw driver and wrench for the Plymouth. Sadly, I'm better > with the laptop. > > Doug, > '63 Sport Fury 'vert > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlov...@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > 277 rear wheel torque > > 268 rear wheel HP > > > Corrected numbers for pre-coffee brain fog...see, what I mean about > > distortion? > > Gary Pavlovich :0I > > > *From:* Gary Pavlovich <glpavlov...@xxxxxxx> > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:21 AM > > *To:* 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > *Subject:* Re: dyno results and car update > > > I do not know the % of loss but bottom line is not to get disappointed > > if the number is not as high as the next guy as there is no possible > > standard of measurement between dynos/atmospheric temps/engine performance > > on a given day etc...the real question is does the on street or on track > > performance satisfy you? At the track, if you win your race(s) the “dyno > > numbers” are pretty much irrelevant. > > Many "numbers” are erroneous, misleading, and at best are a guideline – > > key word is guideline; another tool in your war chest of Mopar knowledge > > and experience. Rear end ratios and high stall convertors will also skew > > the numbers and prevent accurate readings or comparisons. > > > For example, my rear wheel dyno numbers on my 67 Dart w/mild transplanted > > 340 build (284 Cam, LD340 intake, 850cfm Thermoquad, stock pistons & > > valves, 1 5/8” Headers, 2.5” exh. pipe, head work...) > > 277 rear wheel HP > > 268 “ “ “ > > from all the “other guy’s” numbers I should be ashamed to drive down the > > street, much less hit the track. However, I turned 12.8 @106mph in the > > quarter mile (even let off the throttle prematurely on that run) and beat > > every car I raced that night (obviously all the paired cars were under > > 12.8...) > > > Gary Pavlovich > > > *From:* Dodger7...@xxxxxxx > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:32 AM > > *To:* 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > *Subject:* Re: dyno results and car update > > > Once apon a time I was told that the biggest loss was the rear > > differential, and that the 90 degree turn of the power was the culprit more > > so than the transmission > > > In a message dated 10/4/2012 12:21:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > mic...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > WoW! that nuch parasitic loss?? I wonder if some kind of friction > > reduceing manual tranny (4 speed) lube and rear end lube would make > > a noticable difference? .........................MO > > > On Oct 3, 10:50 pm, Richard Kinsley <leroar.kinsley...@xxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > As an example of dyno numbers, back in '63 I had my '59 Ply Sport Fury > > 318 > > > power pack dyno tuned in Garden Grove, CA. The horsepower was about > > 112hp > > > at 60mph in high gear with 2:94 rear and 14" tires. They didn't run it > > up > > > like they do now and find the max. There is a percentage of power loss > > but > > > it varies with the application. Some drive lines are more efficient than > > > others. I think a 15% loss is fairly good. > > > > Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara LeRoar 4dr 324 poly w/goodies > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:25 AM, MO <mic...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > I like your Plymy and what you are doing with it. > > > > > I am afraid to admit how old school I am, but how does dyno at the > > > > rear wheels translate into numbers on an engine dtno? I know the rear > > > > wheel dyno reads less but I am not familiar with the numbers you give > > > > to know just what kind of power your engine has. ..................MO > > > > > On Oct 2, 2:26 pm, SL <slid...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I've finally had some time to work on the car in the last few weeks > > and > > > > > drive it a bit before the snow falls here. Installing an MSD fixed > > the > > > > > starting issues...bad coil or orange box was the culprit everything > > else > > > > > checked out. The 440 six pack got some tuning on the dyno and she's > > > > > running really good now. 355hp and 383tq with 38 degress of timing. > > > > > Elevation here is ~3500' > > > > > > In addition to the planned alterktion install I'm starting to put > > > > together > > > > > my plans for the Megasquirt EFI. I may keep it a six pack by going > > with > > > > > the following intake from F&B Throttle Bodies. > > > >http://www.fbthrottlebodies.com/images/photos/440%206bblsys.gif > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Stacy > > > > > > IMG_20120924_112031 (Large).jpg > > > > > 103KViewDownload > > > > > > IMG_20120921_090422 (Large).jpg > > > > > 141KViewDownload > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > Please address private email -- email of interest to only one person -- > > > > directly to that person. That is, email your parts/car transactions and > > > > negotiations, as well as other personal messages, only to the intended > > > > recipient. 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