RE: Alcohol in gasoline (spin-off from pulsing engine)

["Ray Henry" <62dart@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, I'm aware of most of the concerns. The splash blending one I was not.
Although knowing modern components hold up well to a reasonable amount of
alcohol, I can see where splash blending may result in inconsistencies in
the mixture. So while a spike in alcohol may not hurt your components, it
can certainly have an effect on the performance of the engine.

My experience has been that simply setting your carb up a tab richer for E10
solves the leaning issue. Splash blending could result in a varying range of
alcohol content, and some may find that they are struggling with
performance/driveability issues tank to tank. To me, that means that those
incapable of tinkering in their driveway are in for a rough haul. My
experience is that we (owners of 62-65 Mopars) don't really have an issue
with the current level of alcohol in the fuel, as our components hold up
well. That's my experience with my own vehicles speaking.

I don't think we're really getting off-topic here, as the subject is indeed
alcohol in gasoline. The more information that we can get our hands on, the
better off we are.

DJ also raises a point in that it IS the coming thing. Even though the
reality is that by forcing alcohol into all fuels we aren't saving a drop of
fossil fuel, and are causing an impact on other markets, we are being forced
into it. Friends of mine building high performance vehicles that are running
alcohol report that they consume twice the quantity of fuel. So yes, I know
that there is a penalty. They don't save any money at the end of the day, as
burning twice the alcohol as racing fuel results in the same cost.

We, as enthusiasts, need to be vigilant in keeping up to date on who is
petitioning our governments for things that impact us. Because once they
come, they never go away. I can't recall the last time a government said
"Oops, we made a mistake, let's go back to the old way". So yes, I believe
alcohol in gasoline is here to stay. We need to adapt where we can.

Me, I'm absolutely happy with E10. Love it, think it's the best thing ever.
E15? I'm leery. Not just the splash blending problem, but the other impacts.
Increased cost in fuel. Impact on other markets (real or anticipated by
stock brokers).


-----Original Message-----
From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary H.
Sent: August-18-11 4:29 PM
To: ""
Subject: Re: Alcohol in gasoline (spin-off from pulsing engine)

We are veering somewhat off topic. But fuel supply does make a difference
for old cars like our Mopars. 
The more your Mopar has been rebuilt, retrofitted with new hoses and new
carb kits, the less an issue I suspect. 

The current spike of alarm is the introduction of E-15. The Historic Vehicle
Association (HVA) has an Ethanol Fuel Petition online. Their analysis is
that the more concentrated E-15 blend coming on the market is no good, from
a classic vehicle perspective. 

They write:  "Because of its corrosive and water absorbing properties,
ethanol, or gasoline containing ethanol, cannot be moved through traditional
petroleum pipelines and tanks. Instead, in a process known as “splash
blending” ethanol is blended into gasoline at terminals near the gas
stations.


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