Thanks for the advice, Joe. Even though I don't notice any leak down in the fluid - and the brakes work well - I've looked into that a bit. I'd be interested in opinions on rebuilding the MC vs replacing with new or remanned - and also recommendations on brands preferred. All 4 wheel cylinders are new in the past 2 years. I'm running the original 10" drums up front and 11" drums in the rear. Thanks, Dave '64 Belvedere 2DHT 318 Poly, Push Button Auto Originally Florida A/C Car --- On Sat, 6/11/11, Joseph Bitterman <furyrestored@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Joseph Bitterman <furyrestored@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Brake Light Switch (was Electrical question) > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 9:45 PM > after viewing your pics dave that > spring your seeing with the drips of old brake fluid hanging > on should not be seen your rubber boot is deteriorated and > will only lead to problems down the road it is already > leaking some and not having the rubber boot on there will > let dirt and moisture in to the bore on your master > cylinder, eventually it will fail,having the old single > resovoir master cylinder you better make sure your emergency > brake works and practice applying it.If that were mine i > think i would pull your master and either rebuild it or > replace it cheaper than a front clip just my 2 cents but i > have had failure in our single pot masters before and > luckily i was only moving slowly and able to stop with quick > e brake response stopping about 6 inches before hitting a > steel locked gate............. > > --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Dave64 <lt7dave@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > From: Dave64 <lt7dave@xxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: Brake Light Switch (was Electrical > question) > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 6:15 PM > > Thanks, guys. Here are some > > pics of mine. Some are with the pedal up and some > with > > it depressed. It's making contact with the bar of > the > > pedal and not the lighter colored pad (nub) - even > though it > > may look different in some of the pics. I think it > > should be lined up with the pad (nub), if I'm seeing > what > > you guys are describing. What do you guys think? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dave > > '64 Belvedere 2DHT > > 318 Poly, Push Button Auto > > Originally Florida A/C Car > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/10/11, Joseph Bitterman <furyrestored@xxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > From: Joseph Bitterman <furyrestored@xxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject: Re: Brake Light Switch (was Electrical > > question) > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 8:01 AM > > > nub on the end of the rod that is > > > exactly how mine is on my 65 500 ,i recently > changed > > my > > > master cyllinder and the new one did not have the > nub > > behind > > > the bushing at the pedal hook up pivot point > that > > touches > > > the white plastic plunger on the switch and my > brake > > lights > > > stayed on so i had to pull the master cylinder > back > > off and > > > change the rod from my old to the new!works fine > now > > but i > > > dont know why the company i bought my new master > from > > sent > > > me one without the nub on it?actually when i > installed > > the > > > new master i thought that i could loosen the > switch > > and move > > > it forward enough to hit the nobless new rod but > no > > luck, so > > > what i found out was it would have been much > easier to > > bench > > > inspect old and new and switch out the rods > before > > > installing rather than install, pull, switch > rods, > > and > > > install then rebleed as there is not alot of > room > > under > > > there and all four bolts holding the master to > the > > firewall > > > have the nuts on the inside a air ratchet sure > made > > the > > > job much easier!!!! although my 66 fury has > the > > nubless > > > rod and the switch plunger actually hits on the > flat > > front > > > of the brake pedal arm............. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/10/11, MO <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: MO <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Subject: Re: Brake Light Switch (was > Electrical > > > question) > > > > To: "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List > Clubhouse" > > > <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 2:06 AM > > > > Dave , IIRC there is an > > > > extension of the rod that comes out of the > > > > master cylinder to the brake pedal on past > the > > > > attaching bolt- > > > > bushing. That extension pushes on the brake > > light > > > > switch. I am pretty > > > > sure that is the way on my 64 Dodge non- > power > > > > brakes.......................MO. > > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 9:17 pm, Dave64 <lt7d...@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I was fooling with mine this afternoon. > I > > found > > > that > > > > the plunger was all gummed up inside the > switch. > > I > > > sprayed > > > > it up with WD-40 to get it working again > (must be > > a > > > spring > > > > inside that was sticking). So it seems to > be > > working > > > fine > > > > now. A couple of questions, though. > > > > > > > > > > The end of the plunger has a knob on > it > > that > > > looks > > > > like it should line up with a larger part of > the > > > pedal > > > > mechanism, but mine lines up with a skinny > part > > of > > > the > > > > pedal. Perhaps that's correct? The > bracket > > the > > > switch is > > > > attached to is slightly loose, so the > switch > > doesn't > > > seem to > > > > stay in the exact proper location and the > brake > > lights > > > now > > > > stay on unless I pull up on the pedal. I > tried > > to > > > get to > > > > the bolt that tightens the bracket up, but > what > > a > > > bugger > > > > that is to reach and get a wrench on. My > > daughter > > > has some > > > > success getting in there with the > instrument > > panel > > > removed. > > > > But she had to go to work before I got > things > > > finished up. > > > > We'll try it again when we have time. > I'm > > thinking > > > a new > > > > switch would be a good idea anyway, but > looking > > for > > > any tips > > > > you guys may have on the position of the > switch > > and > > > getting > > > > to that mounting bolt above the steering > column. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > '64 Belvedere > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 6/8/11, 64-polara <wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: 64-polara <wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Electrical question > > > > > > To: "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail > List > > > Clubhouse" > > > > <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, > 7:15 AM > > > > > > My brake lights now work. I > cleaned > > > > > > off the terminals and shot some > > > > > > electrical contact spray on them > and in > > the > > > > plunger area on > > > > > > the switch > > > > > > and it works great but will > probably > > buy > > > a > > > > switch and > > > > > > replace it > > > > > > anyway, they are reasonably > priced. > > > > > > > > > > > i did pull the grounding strap on > the > > fuel > > > tank > > > > and sanded > > > > > > the gas > > > > > > lines. With my handy dremel tool > > cleaned out > > > the > > > > contact > > > > > > surfaces on > > > > > > the strap, still nothing. So I > will do > > some > > > > testing on the > > > > > > sending > > > > > > unit and clean some other > connections > > to > > > make > > > > sure I have a > > > > > > good > > > > > > ground. So will see what happens. > Could > > be > > > the > > > > voltage > > > > > > limiter in the > > > > > > cluster too. > > > > > > On Jun 5, 8:36 am, "Ollie" <satellite1...@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I suspect that the brake > light > > problem > > > is in > > > > the turn > > > > > > signal switch. I have > > > > > > > had 2, 65 Plys and both have > > the > > > same > > > > problem. > > > > > > Wiggle the turn signal lever > > > > > > > and the brake lights will go > on > > and > > > off. > > > > Always the > > > > > > right side on both mine. > > > > > > > Ollie > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Dave64 > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 > 8:07 > > AM > > > > > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Electrical > question > > > > > > > > > > > > Another possibilty on your > brake > > > lights > > > > could be the > > > > > > turn signal switch. I > > > > > > > think mine is bad - > > intermittently > > > > works/doesn't work. > > > > > > I have a new Daniel > > > > > > > Stern switch on the bench - > just > > need > > > to get > > > > around to > > > > > > installing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, > 64-polara > > <wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: 64-polara <wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Electrical > > question > > > > > > > > To: "The 1962 to 1965 > Mopar > > Mail > > > List > > > > Clubhouse" > > > > > > > > <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, June 2, > > 2011, > > > 10:04 AM > > > > > > > > Yup > > > > > > > > all of the other lights > were > > > working. I > > > > will > > > > > > check the > > > > > > > > ground strap > > > > > > > > and I had thought about > the > > switch > > > and > > > > doing what > > > > > > you said. > > > > > > > > Will check > > > > > > > > it out tonight. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 2, 7:37 am, Dodger7...@xxxxxxx > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fuel gauge,,,,,,, > did > > the > > > rest of > > > > your > > > > > > gauges work > > > > > > > > properly? if so it is > > > > > > > > > more than likely > the > > ground > > > strap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brake lights,,,,, > did > > your > > > > interior lights, > > > > > > and dash > > > > > > > > lights work ? if not > > > > > > > > > check fuses, if > they > > did > > > work, > > > > jumper the > > > > > > wires at the > > > > > > > > brake light switch, > > > > > > > > > if they work > then, it > > is > > > the > > > > switch,,,, if > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > still do not work, I > would > > > > > > > > > find the rear > chassis > > > harness > > > > plug > > > > > > connection, and > > > > > > > > check for corrusion, > both > > > > > > > > > your taillights > and > > fuel > > > gauge > > > > probably go > > > > > > through > > > > > > > > that same plug,,, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated > > 6/2/2011 > > > > 6:47:42 A.M. > > > > > > Central > > > > > > > > Daylight Time, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well the Polara > rolled > > out > > > of > > > > the garage > > > > > > under its > > > > > > > > own power yesterday > > > > > > > > > afternoon. What > a > > great > > > feeling > > > > after its > > > > > > innards > > > > > > > > and outards > > > > > > > > > cluttering up my > garage > > for > > > the > > > > last > > > > > > year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I replaced the > fuel > > sending > > > unit > > > > about 4 > > > > > > years ago. > > > > > > > > While the car had > > > > > > > > > been in my garage > > waiting to > > > go > > > > back > > > > > > together the gas > > > > > > > > guage had been > > > > > > > > > working fine. > Yesterday > > > started it > > > > up drove > > > > > > it a few > > > > > > > > miles and it was > > > > > > > > > ok just low on > gas. > > About an > > > hour > > > > later > > > > > > after putting > > > > > > > > the wheel covers > > > > > > > > > back on I start it > up > > and > > > the > > > > guage is > > > > > > bottomed out > > > > > > > > below the E > > > > > > > > > mark.So I shut it > off, > > start > > > it up > > > > again > > > > > > same thing. > > > > > > > > Get some gas in > > > > > > > > > it, still the same > > thing. > > > Later > > > > took my wife > > > > > > out to DQ > > > > > > > > as a little > > > > > > > > > celebration and > cruise > > so > > > while > > > > waiting in > > > > > > line the > > > > > > > > guage starts to > > > > > > > > > move in the full > > direction > > > then > > > > stopped and > > > > > > went to > > > > > > > > empty again. > > > > > > > > > I will check out > the > > fuel > > > > sending unit > > > > > > wires and > > > > > > > > ground strap > > > > > > > > > tonight.Anybody > have > > any > > > > thoughts on > > > > > > that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next issue. Brake > > lights > > > were > > > > working fine > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > yesterday. Now they > > > > > > > > > are not. Noticed > that > > at > > > Dairy > > > > Queen also > > > > > > > > > when i didnt see > my > > brake > > > light > > > > reflection > > > > > > in the big > > > > > > > > aXX Navigator > > > > > > > > > behind me. Maybe > the > > switch > > > for > > > > the brake > > > > > > light at the > > > > > > > > pedal? if so > > > > > > > > > what would be a > good > > source > > > to get > > > > it from? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other than that it > was > > a > > > great > > > > feeling to > > > > > > be back in > > > > > > > > the bucket seats > > > > > > > > > again all 4 > windows > > down. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will post some > pics > > soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > You received this > > message > > > > because you are > > > > > > subscribed > > > > > > > > to the Google Groups > > > > > > > > > "The 1962 to 1965 > Mopar > > Mail > > > > List > > > > > > Clubhouse" group. > > > > > > > > > To post to this > group, > > send > > > email > > > > to 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe > from > > this > > > group, > > > > send email > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > 1962to1965mopars+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > For more options, > > visit > > > this > > > > group at > > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/1962to1965mopars?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > You received this > message > > because > > > you > > > > are > > > > > > subscribed to the > > > > > > > > Google Groups "The 1962 > to > > 1965 > > > Mopar > > > > Mail List > > > > > > Clubhouse" > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > To post to this group, > send > > email > > > to 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from > this > > group, > > > send > > > > email to > > > > > > > > 1962to1965mopars+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > For more options, visit > this > > group > > > at > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/1962to1965mopars?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > You received this message > because > > you > > > are > > > > subscribed > > > > > > to the Google Groups > > > > > > > "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail > List > > > Clubhouse" > > > > group. > > > > > > > To post to this group, send > email > > to 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this > group, > > send > > > email > > > > to > > > > > > > 1962to1965mopars+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > For more options, visit this > group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/1962to1965mopars?hl=en.- > > > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because > you > > are > > > > subscribed to the > > > > > > Google Groups "The 1962 to 1965 > Mopar > > Mail > > > List > > > > Clubhouse" > > > > > > group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email > to 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, > send > > email > > > to > > > > > > 1962to1965mopars+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/1962to1965mopars?hl=en.- > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are > > subscribed > > > to the > > > > Google Groups "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail > List > > > Clubhouse" > > > > group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > to > > > > 1962to1965mopars+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/1962to1965mopars?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are > subscribed > > to the > > > Google Groups "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List > > Clubhouse" > > > group. > > > To post to this group, send email to 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > 1962to1965mopars+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/1962to1965mopars?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed > to the > > Google Groups "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List > Clubhouse" > > group. > > To post to this group, send email to 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > 1962to1965mopars+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/1962to1965mopars?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List Clubhouse" > group. > To post to this group, send email to 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > 1962to1965mopars+unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/1962to1965mopars?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List Clubhouse" group. 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