RE: headliner

[David Bailey <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Quote - “I'm not sure if my calling them sail panels is correct.” Close enough for me Steve! That “dark stiff fiberboard” that the lights were attached to if not broken away, would have the same shape of the entire sail panel (C pillar) area. The board material was the backing used with some ¼ inch or so of insulation on it much like the other insulation pads throughout the car - under the dash and kick panels etc. As per your description and my memory, I believe as you said, the insulation side of the “board” was against the C pillar with some adhesive and the light base / socket mounted on top of the board helping to hold it in place. Then the headliner material covered all that with the lens and bezel to finish it off. I believe Joe B. answered the attachment of the liner itself nicely, thanks.
While on the insulation thing, there was also a sheet of maybe 3 / 8 inch thick non-backed insulation cemented to the underside of the roof. I don’t know if this or the C pillar insulation is available or not. But I will need it (or something) in the future. Does anyone else know? Joe?
Thanks,
Dave B       
 
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: headliner
> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:37:42 -0600
> 
> 
> Dave, I'm not sure if my calling them sail panels is correct. My 
> headliner was completly missing and back on the pillar was the two interior 
> lights and part of a dark stiff fiberboard. that the lights were attached to 
> . The rest of it was broken away on both sides. I did not see any 
> insulation unless that was the board itself. As for the headliner material 
> over that area, there are gripper teeth by the sides of the rear window, but 
> I did not see how the headliner material woud attach on the front side of 
> the two lights
> 
> As for the clips on e-bay, I don't remember what they looked like, but 
> there were several more than two. My bet is that they were for something 
> other than B body or for a later year than 1964. Thanks for the 
> help.......................MO
> 
> {Steve Mick}
> http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:56 PM
> Subject: RE: headliner
> 
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> 
> “…are the sail-panels where the two interior pillar light mount, available 
> reproduction?”
> Are you referring to the insulation for the sail panels? If so, that’s a 
> good question. I would think if these were available Joe Suchy would have 
> them. I need to get those myself yet. If that’s what you need and find them 
> would you let me know please?
> And oh by the way, I’m glad you had those bow clips, they might be though to 
> find. Are they the same that you said you saw on Ebay?
> Thanks,
> Dave B
> 
> 
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: headliner
> > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:14:47 -0600
> >
> >
> > Thanks alot Dave, Now I can put that off my "to do" list. I think I have
> > all parts for the headliner.
> >
> > OH, one other thing are the sail-panels where the two interior pillar 
> > light
> > mount, available reproduction?.................MO
> > .
> > {Steve Mick}
> > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 3:22 PM
> > Subject: RE: headliner
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Now what I am asking about is there some kind of clips that go on the 
> > ends
> > of the other bows, possibly to keep the headliner in place"?
> > No I don’t think there is Mo, at least there weren’t any in my car when I
> > took it apart and there was no apperent problem. The headliner and
> > everything looked fine and original including the dry-rotted fabrick.
> > Dave B
> >
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: headliner
> > > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:14:56 -0600
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Dave, after finding out what these rear bow clips look like, I 
> > > did
> > > find that I had them and didn't know what they did. Good thing I save
> > > everything :-)
> > >
> > > Now what I am asking about, is there some kind of clips that go on the
> > > ends
> > > of the other bows, possibly to keep the headliner in place? I know the
> > > bows
> > > go into little pockets in the side "sawtooth" bracket. The reason I ask 
> > > is
> > > because the clips were mentioned in a "how to" artical. That artical was
> > > not
> > > year specific. May be for something later. Any more info?
> > > ..Thanks.........MO
> > >
> > > {Steve Mick}
> > > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:24 AM
> > > Subject: RE: headliner
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mo,
> > > In answer to your question for the rear most headliner bow clips, (“does
> > > my
> > > car need those clips and what do they look like?”) - Yes - you will need
> > > them. You said you found the bows lying lose in the trunk. When the 
> > > person
> > > removed the bows from the old liner, he almost certainly would have had 
> > > to
> > > take at least one clip off the bow end in order to pull the bow wire out
> > > through the headliner loop. A conscientious person should have placed it
> > > right back on so as not to lose it. Even so, these clips do not grip the
> > > wire all that tightly so my thought is you just might be lucky enough to
> > > find one or both somewhere in the trunk area. Like down in where the 
> > > trunk
> > > floor drops-off at the quarter panel, or back around the tail
> > > panel/taillight framing area? They’re worth a good hard look all around.
> > > And what do they look like? Appearance wise, (a flagpole holder?) they
> > > remind me of the old 90-degree spark plug wire clips we used to use to
> > > make
> > > our own custom length wires (remember that?). If those are still made
> > > these
> > > days, you might be able to modify a pair of those to use (?).
> > > Hummm?
> > > Dave B.
> > >
> > >
> > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: headliner
> > > > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:06:20 -0600
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello there! On my 64 Dodge B body 2 dr hdtp--. My headliner bows were
> > > > not
> > > > installed when I got it. I figgered where the bows go and with help 
> > > > from
> > > > list members, found out about how the back bow attaches to the sides. 
> > > > A
> > > > 4
> > > > door shares those two little "flag pole holders" I was reading a" how 
> > > > to
> > > > "artical on Installation. and it said to install the clips on each end
> > > > of
> > > > the bow when tightening the material. Does my car need those clips and
> > > > what do they look like?? In the past I have seen on e-bay headliner
> > > > clips
> > > > . But I didn't know if I might need them Any info will be
> > > > appreciated..............MO
> > > > {Steve Mick}
> > > > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > > >
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