In this particular instance the question was regarding the options, codes and prices on a 1965 Dodge Coronet, and not the plate that covers the hole. The term "radio delete" popularly covers both the lack of a radio and the plate that covers the hole when there is no radio. As a resut of the use of "radio delete" for a car that has no radio, many expect there to be a code for such a situation be it on a list of options or on the build sheet. But that situation only holds true when a radio is standard equipment and the non-installation of a radio is an option. Bill Toronto, ON On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > When people refer to heater, radio, pushbutton delete, they are actually > referring to the plate that covers the appropriate hole and not the fact > that the build sheet reflected if it was ordered with or with out the > option > I have at least one of each of the plates to delete or cover heat controls > transmission pushbuttons & radio holes in the dash for my 63s no matter > how > my car was ordered. > > > > >                > Herb > > 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361 4-Sale > 1959 Coronet 326 Poly > 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly > 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six 4-Sale > 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361 > 1970 Chrysler 300 Hurst 440 > 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L > St. Louis, MO. > > http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Gary H. > Date: 10/17/2010 4:50:44 PM > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: factory options > > Below is what Bill wrote for those who could not view it: > > No such thing as "heater delete" prior to 1965, while "radio delete" did > not > appear before the 1980's. > > Prior to 1965 heaters were optional, thus heaters appear in salesman's > order > book,. Back then if you did not want a heater, you did not order a heater. > "Heater delete" did not appear until heaters were standard equipment, at > which time you ticked the "No heater" box on the order form and got a car > with no heater. > > Remember, you cannot delete something that is not there. The basic car > back > then did not have a heater, thus you could not get "heater delete". There > was no heater, and as a result the heater could not be deleted. But in > 1965 > heaters were standard, thus if you ordered your car with sales code 406, > you > got "heater delete". > > Same with radios. Back in the 1950's and 1960's radios were optional. If > you ordered a car with no options, you got a car with blackwall tires, > hubcaps, no heater, no radio, and if automatic transmission was optional, > you got a manual transmission, clutch and all. > > When radios became standard in the 1980's it became possible to order a > "radio delete" car. You had the standard radio deleted from the build > specs. But, again, if the basic car came with no radio, you could get the > radio option, but not a radio delete. In 1980 if you ordered a car that > had > a radio as standard equipment, if you ticked box R08, you ordered a car > with > radio delete. But in 1965 there was no radio delete code as radios were > optional, even on Imperials. > > And the same goes for such items as driver s outside mirror and seat > belts which were made standard equipment years before the American > government had the power to dictate safety standards. During the period > prior to the safety standards such could be deleted - code 460 was front > belts deleted in 1965. > > Bill > Toronto, ON > > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Bill Watson > > -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. This email was sent to: arc.6265@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx u/?bUrDWg.bSONJP.YXJjLjYy ?p=TEXFOOTER