When people refer to heater, radio, pushbutton delete, they are actually referring to the plate that covers the appropriate hole and not the fact that the build sheet reflected if it was ordered with or with out the option I have at least one of each of the plates to delete or cover heat controls transmission pushbuttons & radio holes in the dash for my 63s no matter how my car was ordered. Herb 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361 4-Sale 1959 Coronet 326 Poly 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six 4-Sale 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361 1970 Chrysler 300 Hurst 440 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L St. Louis, MO. http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html -------Original Message------- From: Gary H. Date: 10/17/2010 4:50:44 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: factory options Below is what Bill wrote for those who could not view it: No such thing as "heater delete" prior to 1965, while "radio delete" did not appear before the 1980's. Prior to 1965 heaters were optional, thus heaters appear in salesman's order book,. Back then if you did not want a heater, you did not order a heater. "Heater delete" did not appear until heaters were standard equipment, at which time you ticked the "No heater" box on the order form and got a car with no heater. Remember, you cannot delete something that is not there. The basic car back then did not have a heater, thus you could not get "heater delete". There was no heater, and as a result the heater could not be deleted. But in 1965 heaters were standard, thus if you ordered your car with sales code 406, you got "heater delete". Same with radios. Back in the 1950's and 1960's radios were optional. If you ordered a car with no options, you got a car with blackwall tires, hubcaps, no heater, no radio, and if automatic transmission was optional, you got a manual transmission, clutch and all. When radios became standard in the 1980's it became possible to order a "radio delete" car. You had the standard radio deleted from the build specs. But, again, if the basic car came with no radio, you could get the radio option, but not a radio delete. In 1980 if you ordered a car that had a radio as standard equipment, if you ticked box R08, you ordered a car with radio delete. But in 1965 there was no radio delete code as radios were optional, even on Imperials. And the same goes for such items as driver s outside mirror and seat belts which were made standard equipment years before the American government had the power to dictate safety standards. During the period prior to the safety standards such could be deleted - code 460 was front belts deleted in 1965. Bill Toronto, ON -----Original Message----- >From: Bill Watson ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www 1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. This email was sent to: arc.6265@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx u/?bUrDWg.bSONJP.YXJjLjYy ?p=TEXFOOTER