Re: Tming Chain Stupid Question

[Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

My initial remark was to short and to the point and probably confusing. 
ALRIGHT, The Engine doesn't care if the cam timing mark is aligned at the
top or bottom of the cam gear, or if the timing mark is at the top or bottom
of the crank gear, (The Distributor Does!!) just all four marks have to be
in alignment with NO margin of error.  That said, the gears and chain were
designed to be set by using a straight edge going down through the center of
the cam bolt through the center of the timing mark on the cam gear through
the center of the timing mark on the crank gear then through the center of
the crank bolt.  Then install the distributor at top dead center, or
pointing to #1 plug wire with the wires installed on your distributor in the
correct firing order (ROTATION?), your engine now is in time.  Aligning the
timing marks together this way leaves less margin for error as designed. 
Timing with the marks at the top of both gears makes it open to the
possibility of being one tooth off and not realizing it unless you are very
careful.

OK, Now, If you installed the cam gear with the timing marks correctly
aligned with the straight line through the center of both bolts and both
timing marks with the crank timing mark on top also then install your
distributor at TDC, your distributor will be 180 degrees out of time, As I
eluded to in my first statement.  With the distributor installed 180 degrees
out off time the engine can be made to run with the symptoms described. 
Nico I bet if you rotate your distributor 180d and reinstall it, it will run
much smoother.

            
 Herb 
 
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-------Original Message-------
 
From: Nico Over
Date: 4/20/2010 7:15:13 PM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Tming Chain Stupid Question
 
Thanks Don that is what I thought but wanted a second opinion. I'll look
elsewhere for my problem.
Nico
 
 
 
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:20:24 -0700 (PDT), Donald Gallimore wrote
> I'm not sure you did anything wrong.  Remember that the gear on the
> crank rotates twice for every one rotation of the gear on the cam.
>  Either way, the mark at the bottom or the top of the cam gear, is
> right when the mark on the crank gear is at the top. The piston is
> still at Top Dead Center (TDC).   (Of course, it's hard to tell if
> you got it right when they are 180 degrees apart)
>
> Akron Don Gallimore
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Nico Over <nover@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 2:39:07 PM
> > Subject: Tming Chain Stupid Question
> >
> >
> All, just finished putting Eddy Victor Heads ported to Max wedge
> size, Indy
> >
> dual plane intake, Crane Hydraulic Roller in the winter top end
> overhaul of
> >
> the 440 in my 63 330. It barely runs, pops out the exhaust on decel,
> won't
> >
> idle. I have moved the timing all over the place from 0 degrees at
> idle to
> > 33
> degress at 3k with no difference in running characteristics. I am
> sure
> > that
> all the plugs are firing and the valves are adjusted properly so am
> at
> > my
> wits end on this one. Now, the only thing I can figure that I messed
> up
> > on
> the build was that I set the timing marks in line top of each gear
> at TDC
> >
> firing instead of the bottom of cam gear to top of crank gear. So my
> > question
> is: will setting the timing marks the way I did manifest itself as
> > I have
> noted above. I really don't want to rip it all back apart but will if
> > i have
> to. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
> Nico Over
> Va.
> > Beach, Va.
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