RE: 850 DP vs dual 4's

[Butch Edison <waedison@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

What I know about carbs is zip, but I do recall Don Dulmage saying that if
dual carbs were correctly tuned and synched, they were superior to a single
carb. That said, I wouldn't have clue to get one carb tuned correctly, much
less two. /Butch/Ferndale, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Adams [mailto:ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:09 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: 850 DP vs dual 4's


I have an old jap bike carb synch tool (4 mercury balance tubes) that I 
think could be adapted just like Dvorak's piece. I spose you guys are 
right and a single carb is better performance-wise. If there's no power 
gain in duals, then what's the point? Thanks guys for all your input.
Steve Charette wrote:
> 
> I agree with Rich - do what you enjoy.  I personally like dual carbs, 
> even
> though I know the car would go faster with an M1 and a big Holley.  
> Whatever
> blows your hair back...
> 
> Was surprised to learn that this year's winter beater ('96 LHS) has dual
> throttle bodies.  Whoo hoo!
> 
> BTW, Dvorak makes a very cool carb synchronizer that makes balancing the
> carbs a snap.  Makes dual carbs idle smooth as silk and makes for very 
> crisp
> throttle response.  All you dual carb nuts check it out here:  
> 
> http://www.dvorakmachine.com/carb_sync.shtml
> 
> Tell mamma it will fit in a Christmas Stocking ;)
> 
> SC 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Kinsley [mailto:rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:14 PM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: 850 DP vs dual 4's
> 
> 
> As you probably know I've been playing with the dual quads on my little 
> poly
> for several years. I can't compare it to a single 4bbl as I never had 
> one on
> this engine. I found that I hated progressive linkage. I also found that 
> it
> was best to tune the carbs at the track by timeslips. When we tuned it a 
> bit
> on the dyno, till the electrical died, we had the AF ratio leaner. The 
> car
> doesn't like leaner at all. I picked up alot in the 1/8th by just 
> running it
> richer every time until the times started going in reverse. 
> 
> Single four is probably easier and most likely will use a bit less fuel 
> if
> you're always standing on it. BUT it sure has a big draw at cruise 
> night! I
> think with the right components and tune the 2X4's have a better 
> potential
> to perform. Just enjoy the project and do whatever rings your bell.
> 
> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> =====================================================================
> =====================================================================
> Dodger7998@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > my personal opinion is you will be happier with the 800/850, not sure 
> > which  you have,,,,,,,,, if you do go with the dual setup you will be 
> > happier with  vacume secondary carbs, you do have the 4 speed which 
> > would help on the
> > bog  though going with what ever,,,,,,but there is the oooohhhhhhhhh    
> > feeling of opening a hood and seeing multiple carburetion
> >  
> >  
> > In a message dated 11/25/2009 4:05:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> > jake4@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 850,  easier to tune etc. etc.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jeff  Adams" <ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To:  <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:36  PM
> > Subject: 850 DP vs dual 4's
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Hey guys, I plan on  replacing the sp 750 Holley on the 426 in my 64
> > > Polara this winter  with a dp 800 Holley I have. I've also been
> > > considering going to a  dual 4 setup. Which do you guys/gals think is
> > > better,  performance-wise? The dual 4 set will cost a lot more as I
> > > already  have the 850. Are dual 4's THAT much more trouble to set up
and
> > > keep  adjusted? Do they perform a noticable amount better, or is it
> > > mostly  for show? The engine has headers, a 513" Lunati Voodoo cam, 
> > > small
> > >  amount of head work with smaller valves, and a 4-spd with 3:91 gears.
> > >  I'm also installing an A833 od.
> > >
> > >
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> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
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Jeff Adams
64 Polara


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