Re: Layson Fiasco

[Joey <jake4@xxxxxxxxxx>]

It will be interesting to read Rob Wolf's take on this, he went pretty easy
on Englehart.

Joey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan McCormack" <mcwheels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: Layson Fiasco


>
> I agree completely. I'm not surprised Layson got busted, only that it took
> this long. A good friend of mine from another group who lives near Laysons
> told me quite some time ago that he'd never buy anything from them.
Besides
> his shady business practices which I see a number of people from this
group
> and other groups that I belong to have experienced (my friend went so far
as
> to call him a crook) he said that Layson has been producing bootleg parts
> without Chrysler's permission and had been warned to stop a long time ago.
>
> I don't think it's a money issue with Chrysler but more of them keeping
> control over the quality of parts being reproduced with their name and
> trademarks on them. Don't forget aftermarket parts are being reproduced
for
> new cars too. I belong to the Western New York Mopars and our club has a
> license from Chrysler to use the name MOPAR and the pentastar in our club
> logo. The only restriction is that anything we produce with our logo has
the
> registered trademark "R" with the circle around it in the logo and that we
> only sell our merchandise to club members. I don't believe there was any
> charge from Chrysler for this permission.
>
> It'll be interesting to see the take that Rob Wolf puts on this. I think
> he's going to blast the cops for deleting his pictures and on that I'd
have
> to agree with him completely. I'm just wondering what he's going to say
> about Layson's getting busted since they're one of his big advertisers.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Chervinsky" <63hemipolara@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Layson Fiasco
>
>
> >
> > It's not a question of doing the parts, it's a question of getting
> > licensing from Chrysler. All the other vendors have to do it. A close
> > friend of mine designs products for Chrysler and has to go for
> > licensing approval every 2 year in Ann Arbour, MI. If they have to do
> > it and they do get approval then why shouldn't organizations like
> > Layson's have to do the same. IT's not because thye are doing it,
> > anyone can do it, but do it legally. Where do you think Layson's are
> > sourcing these parts...CHINA, where US patents and copyrights are not
> > recognized. Offendors should be prosecuted to the fullest as there are
> > other organizations who go through the right channels and are
> > approved. Year One's catalog is pretty thick, they had to get approval
> > from Chrysler, Legendary had to do the same, they did and are doing it
> > legally. I ordered lower patch panels from Laysons. They cost $500.
> > Stamped in China, they were 4" too long and the body line in front of
> > the wheel well did not line up with the body lines. The body man
> > charged me an additional $500 to work them to fit by cutting and
> > welding. Maybe these would have fit if they had to be approved by
> > Chrysler.  This is my experience.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I think that we help the unlicensed vendors and ourselves if we
encourage
> >> them to manufacture the latter. Why is it so necessary to have the
often
> >> problematic minutia on the part? As long as the parts fit right, look
> >> right,
> >> and function properly, who needs numbers and logos?"
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Steve
> > '63 Hemi Polara
>
>
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