Re: Damn Starter snapped!

["Ben Jr. Morgan" <polara_hotrods@xxxxxxx>]

On Dodgers note, looking through your photos Brian, it looks as though there is a definite difference in the size of that nose. Its hard to tell without being there in person and whipping out my micrometer, but it sure does look like one's a little thicker than the other. This could be a simple case of the nose doesn't fit in the hole. The only other thing that I could think of is perhaps the starter's case was binding on the stud as you were tightening it, thus preventing it from sitting flush (Yes, even tightening the bolt finger tight before installing the nut on the stud can do this). There's a lesson to be learned here though, if you can't get that starter to sit flush by hand, then stuff it back into the box, sit your ass in the seat of another car and head right back to the parts store, and ignore what anyone else tells you. If it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. Only the person under the car with his hands all over it knows.

I noticed that the teeth on the starter ring looked quite marred. I'd be more worried about that before even thinking about a new starter. Roll the engine over with a socket/breaker bar while watching those teeth and make sure there aren't any flat/missing/horribly marred teeth on that starter ring or else your just going to tear up another starter. Pulling a transmission without a lift is nasty I know that, but a starter ring is much cheaper than going through three or four starters before you give up. Besides, while you've got that trans out, maybe you'll have a little extra time work out that serious oil leak you have too.

So what was the reason for the new MP starter? I know they are smaller, but I didn't see any headers getting in the way of installing a correct, reliable OEM replacement starter that you wouldn't have any modification problems with. Make sure you have your basics right. My Boss keeps pounding it into my head "KISS". I've had a good Napa premium ($75 I think it was, with a good warranty) on my big block for 4 years now and never had  a problem with it. Updating with new technology is nice, and often a good thing, but sometimes compatibility issues are just too costly and too much of a pain in the ass. I'm not looking to offend anyone here, just wondering where this is coming from.
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  From: Dodger7998@xxxxxxx<mailto:Dodger7998@xxxxxxx> 
  To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> 
  Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Damn Starter snapped!




  I just installed a late model dakota starter on my test stand  engine, it has 
  a 63 361 tranny case mounted to the 440(shouldn't matter on the  engine, it 
  bolts to the tranny, not the engine) and had no problems,,,,,,,there  is a 
  indentation in the bell housing that the nose of the starter fits into, if  it is 
  not started into it properly,  it will cause the starter to break if  
  tightened down, the starter should be able to be placed in the proper position  by 
  hand, and not have to be forced to go tight to the  bellhousing



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