well its a little off topic, but it is Mopar and the 273 was existent in 64 and 65 so just pretend its a 64 valiant we are talking about and not my 67 coronet It was suppoesed to be a no-brainer replacement of the leaky rear main seal while i had the motor out for painting my engine compartment, but it has turned into a total disaster. I pulled the pan and the rear main cap, and loosened up all the other main caps a bit, but that upper half of the rear main seal WOULD NOT come out, so I had to flip the motor on its top , yaNK THE TIMING CASE COVER, TIMING CHAIN, BALANCER, ETC.and carfully remove the rod caps and slowly excruciatingly remove the crank making sure to not scar the crank with the rod bolts. I got the crank out, gave all the bearings a good look over ( they look fine) , but now i dont know if i can actually get the crank reinstalled and coordinate all the rods in order to not scar the crank,it was a small miracle i was able to get it out, but i dont know if it can be done again. The problem is , that as u turn the crank to get the first rod journal into place, u have three other rod journals coming down or going up and the attendant rods bolts sticking up to get in the way. I know about putting hose over rod bolts to guard the journals, but that will not help this case and would in fact make the problem more difficult.I am wondering if I just shouldnt buy a full gasket set, yank the heads and do it correctly, by installing the crank, then lowering the pistons down the holes one by one and bolting them to the crank. I thought about removing all the rod bolts and keeping them in order to their caps to create a little more room in there but i dont know if even that will actually give me enough clearance. Is there some way to do this and not yank the heads and throw a hundred dollar gasket kit into a motor to fix a 6 dollar seal. needless to say i am so exasperated today i am about ready to roll the whole car off the cliff and give up neal zimmerman, eugene oregon -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different? ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. This email was sent to: arc.6265@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx bSONJP. Or send an email to: 1962to1965mopars-unsubscribe@