Re: 413 compared to 383 ?

["Ben Jr. Morgan" <polara_hotrods@xxxxxxx>]

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To tell you the truth, I don't know what kinda heads are on the 413, but those 440 heads on your 383 are .906 heads, and they're damn good. Very good in fact that I have a very similar setup in my 64 330 station wagon with a 4 speed. Although the cam is not as hot (I'm gonna get something better, if not a purple shaft, maybe a Lunati, or maybe a Racer Brown if it can handle it.). So like I said, I don't know about the 413, but don't throw those .906 heads away, or the 383, its a good motor as you probably know.

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From: Douglas J
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 7:55 PM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 413 compared to 383 ?

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Hi all.

I've been lurking here for a year or so, enjoy the conversations, and all  
that everyone has to offer.  I've been a long time Mopar guy, with Hemi's, a  
Superbird, Runners, GTX's, Chargers, Cudas,, all the good stuff in the past.  
  Since I was 16 tho,, there has always been a 62-65 Mopar in the garage.   
All the other goodies are gone,, a 63 Plymouth Sport Fury ragtop remains.   
25 years ago, I bought it and put a quick paint and interior job on it, and  
dumped in a fresh 383 magnum out of a 69 Charger in it.  The 200,000 mile  
361 is still in the garage just in case.  The 383 got a purple shaft, and a  
set of heads off of a 440 that had triple springs and a fresh valve job from  
a GTX I used to race, before I went to stage 4 heads.  It still runs quite  
nice, but I have a 413 sitting out behind the shed in what is left of a 64  
NewYorker parts car that is just bothering the heck out of me.  Was a time I  
thought I needed to make a 426 out of it,, but now I think I'd like to keep  
it a 413.  The one in the 64 NewYorker that I used the parts on was a fine  
running engine, and besides,, I like the way "413" rolls off the tongue !   
Anyway, I havent done alot of work on cars for several years due to family  
commitments, a job that required way too  much of my time, and lately, a  
daughter in college.  Seems I've forgotten alot of what I used to know. As I  
recall, the 413 was rated at 350 hp, the 383 at 330.  I'm thinkin of goin  
thru the engine, maybe another purple shaft or equivilant, a new intake and  
carb, and headers.  The question for you guys is, what do you think of the  
heads on the old 413 ?  I dont have the money for a good set of aftermarket  
heads, so I'm wondering if the heads off of the 383 might  be a significant  
improvement over the stock 413 heads ?  If I remember right, the later heads  
have larger valves, better flow ?  I do plan to sell the 383 after the  
transplant, so pulling the heads off of it does have it's drawbacks, but if  
its going to make a marked difference I'd do it.  (It would make a nice  
addition to my brothers '70 Charger 500 which has an incredibly enemic 318  
in it now).  So what do you think?

BTW, past Mopars that would be of interest to this group are, a 63 Fury  
which I owned for 25 years that had motors from the original 318 poly, a  
340,  to a 426 max wedge, (which was a partial trade for the Superbird) to a  
dual quad  440 that it left here with, (it ended up in Wisconsin), 2 '64  
NewYorkers,
a 62 300, a 64 Belvedere 2dr post, 63 Sport Fury hardtop,  a '62 Savoy 413   
Max wedge, 2 dr sedan (shoulda kept that one). a 64 330,  a 65 Coronet 500,  
and a 66 Sport Fury. (You'd think I'd know more about heads).

Sorry this got so long, once us old guys wake up its hard to shut us up !   
(Old age aint for sissys)

Thanks; Big Jake

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