Re: Fuel injection

[Dan Bendixon <bendixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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I have always wondered why so few Mopars are set up with fuel injection?
I've seen the blue oval and bow tie boys using them for years at the car
shows. I've only seen a couple FI equipped older Mopars.
    I've always been interested to try it and I'm finding this thread to be
an interesting read. I can only assume that if we hang in there long enough,
these parts will become much cheaper, (much like 50 mHz computers, which I
believe sold new for $5K + about 10 years ago). But, like many of you, I'm
still more comfortable tweaking on my good ol' Carter AFB!!!

Regards,
Dan Bendixon
(2) '65 Monacos
'65 Custom 880
'73 Dart Sport "340"
'88 Dakota
and OH MY GOD I want one of those new Chrysler 300C's!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Helm" <earlh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: Fuel injection


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Dave,

There are more and more of these coming on the market. When I was at
SEMA this year I saw several
of them. In fact I think Holly is making one for a BR Mopar. Not sure
about that, but I think I remember
talking to someone in their booth that said they were working on it. It
is for sure the way to go.

Earl

I'm working on my own EFI swap with a standard multiport sequential
system. I am not using Hilborn's though, I'm using a plain old
Offenhauser aluminum 4 bbl intake with a throttle body instead of a
carburetor. I hope to have it running and driving this winter and finish
the fine tuning by next summer. This is not an $8,000 investment, but I
am doing almost everything myself. It should come out under $4,000
easily, plus my time.

Dave Casey

----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Helm" <earlh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: Fuel injection


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> Ken,
>
> People are taking the old 8 port Hilborn mechanical injection, putting

> one or two electrical injectors per port, with a brain, mapping it,
> and it runs great when your finished. The key
> words are "When your finished". It looks cool because it is old
school,
> and runs like new
> school. Most of the guys that I have seen doing it wind up with about
8
> grand invested.
> Even though it is neat, a Holly 1050 looks a lot better on "my" Visa.
>
> Earl
>
>
> Hi Earl,
> Are you talking about converting to mechanical or electrical FI? I
> assume electrical, but you mentioned Hilborn. Thanks,
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Earl Helm [mailto:earlh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:45 AM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Old Reliable
>
> Don,
>
> The simple answer is fuel injection. I have been following a few guys
> who are converting to FI. One has a radical 440 with an 8 port
> Hilborn. After he put the fuel injection unit on and dialed it in, the

> drivability was like night and day. However, it is very expensive, and

> time consuming, since it takes several dyno runs just to get into the
> ball park. I would love to do in, but I have to many other things
> going on. Plus I love the Ruckety Puckety part.
>
> In fact, he was a bit disappointed with how much the injection
> smoothed out the engine. The wave of the future. If I want smooth, and

> powerful, that is why I have the Mercedes with the V8.
>
> Earl
>
> I will be OK. Time is my only problem and if you all can wait then I
> have no problem getting it done. The other book Return to Deutschland
> has more than enough preoders to offset the cost of reprinting Old
> Reliable as i have orders both here and in Europe for it. It is just
> that the printer is almost 3 weeks behind on the contract for
> finishing the book and I have to pay them when they are done. Also
> There is no point in me giving them another order till they have
> completed this one.
>
> On another note.
> I now have over 14000+ miles on my 63 and winter is drawing nigh. We
> might get another month of cruise nights but that is about it. I have
> to change the headers as I have a cracked one on the drivers side
> which I have repaired twice. I am thinking of pulling the 426 and
> exploring the possiblility of getting some tamer drivability while not

> losing any power. Modern engines are now doing this and I believe it
> is possible to bring an older engine into this new relm / We shall
> see. I have some ideas most of which are cam related . It is not that
> I don't enjoy the current engine because I do. It is a mindblower to
> drive and never fails to make me smile. It is just that I am curious
> We shall see Don
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