Re: sending unit

["Dennis J." <djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sounds like a typical mopar day to me, don't worry it gets better......
DJ


--- On Thu, 8/19/10, William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sending unit
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 4:21 AM
> Took the tank out again and removed
> the sending unit.
> I attached a jumper wire to the hot wire and a ground wire
> from the unit to the frame close to the ignition switch.
> Turned the key on and lifted the float....Nothing......But,
> noticed a slight movement when the float was down so I
> reversed the position of the rheostat and lifted the float
> and got movement of my gas gauge.
> Put it all back together and re=installed the tank and
> attached the ground strap to the frame, turned the key on
> and.......not working, said fuck it and started the car and
> did some timing and idle adjustments and took the car out on
> the road.....
> Ran hot and the transmission  isn't shifting
> right.....Said fuck it again and parked it....Then found a
> transmission fluid drip right under the area of the
> transmission that indicates the front seal is
> leaking......So now the lack of a working fuel gauge is the
> least of my worries.
> Gonna set the car on jack stands and remove the tranny and
> replace the front seal and while it is out I am going to put
> the stock converter back in and get the 10 inch high stall
> converter rebuilt and put it on the 496 stroker motor.
> Later
> Bill Harrison
> 65 Coronet 2 dr post
> 
> --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:53 PM
> > 
> > I have been reading every E mail regarding the fuel
> gauges.
> > I have a fuel gauge problem in MS Cruiser.
> > I have a stock fuel sender unit that I bought from
> Kramer.
> > The better, more expensive,  made in USA one. So I
> was
> > told
> > I am using autometer gauges....straight 12V
> > When I bought the sending unit Cindy told me to use
> the
> > 80-100 gauge. That is a GM gauge. (please correct me
> if I am
> > wrong on the ohms) I did ask the ohms of the sending
> unit as
> > I knew I was going to use autometer not stock.
> > I fill the tank full. Gauge goes to full. Does not
> move off
> > full till you are down to 5 gallons in the tank.
> Drops
> > rapidly at 8-10 mpg. At 1/8 tank you are walking. I
> will not
> > run out of gas.
> > About a year ago I started a discussion on the ohms
> reading
> > of our senders. The 4/74 is correct. I beleive this
> after
> > reasearch. Light goes off, wrong gauge!! I bought a
> Chrysler
> > ohm gauge from Autometer. Swapped gauges. NOTHING !!
> Went
> > back to old relayable...if the gauge reads 1/2 STOP
> > IMMEDIATELY>>BUY FUEL !!
> > I have tried grounding, nothing more that holding up a
> wire
> > while wife operates key and reports results. Nothing
> ,, but
> > maybe not a good ground?
> > Gary H made a post regarding the ground strap. I
> looked in
> > my shop manual no info. I never had one on MS Cruiser.
> Now
> > it has been explained better.
> > Someone also made a post regarding the contact on the
> coil
> > of the sending unit..need to check this.
> > So Bill I do suffer your pain too! If it makes you
> feel
> > better, no gauge on the Petty Car, just open the 8 gal
> fuel
> > cell and look. My Rambler has a note pad on the rear
> view
> > mirror instead of fuzzie dice, fill up every 200
> miles.
> > Ain't are old cars FUN? As my buddy Rich says "Having
> Fun
> > Yet?"
> > Ollie
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb" <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ya the ring, not reliable! Your car had a ground strap
> made
> > of heavy tin
> > that snapped over the fuel line and the nipple on the
> > sender bridging the
> > rubber hose thus the ground from the factory.  A lot
> > of people removed them
> > not realizing what they are or they just biodegraded
> and
> > fell off.  You may
> > get lucky and get a temporary ground through the
> straps and
> > the locking ring
> > but the slightest corrosion will cancel that out, much
> like
> > on a dirty
> > battery terminal.  It is called electrolytic
> corrosion
> > caused by two
> > dissimilar metals in contact with each other.  The
> > corrosion is a good
> > insulator!  Look at it like the metals don't like
> each
> > other and build up a
> > barrier so they don't have to touch each other!  I
> > believe Gary H had a link
> > to the re-pop of the factory ground bridge on here not
> long
> > ago if you want
> > to go that route.  For now what I would do (It ant
> > pretty but) is get two
> > hose clamps and a eyelet and a long piece of wire that
> need
> > not be insulated
> >  Hose clamp the wire to the nipple between the
> hose and
> > base of the sender,
> > jump over the hose to the fuel line clean it up and
> hose
> > clamp the wire to
> > the fuel line.  That should work as a ground just
> fine
> > but, grounding it to
> > the frame also will be even better.  That will give
> > you a three point ground
> > if your with me!  Now if you have a flashing test
> > light at the wire in the
> > back and a good connection to your sender I bet your
> gauge
> > will work!  Let
> > me know how this works.
> > 
> > 
> >             
> 
> > Herb
> > 
> > 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361
> > 1959 Coronet 326 Poly
> > 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly
> > 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six
> > 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L
> > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361
> > 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L
> > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L
> > St. Louis, MO.
> > 
> > http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >                
> >               GOD Drives
> > a Plymouth
> > 
> > ".... GOD, in his FURY, drove them forth from
> Eden...."
> > 
> > Genesis 3:23
> > 
> > 
> > -------Original Message-------
> > 
> > From: William Harrison
> > Date: 8/18/2010 9:29:03 AM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > 
> > Herb
> > The unit is supposed to be grounded by the locking
> ring but
> > it could be that
> > it is not working.
> > I just now remembered that after I had the underside
> of the
> > car sand blasted
> > I then painted it with a por 15 type of paint and I
> also
> > lined the top of
> > the tank area with rubber, so it could be that I don't
> have
> > a ground....Doh.
> > 
> > I will attach a separate ground wire today.
> > Thanks
> > Bill
> > - On Wed, 8/18/10, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 10:12 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Are you grounding the sender to the fuel line or
> > frame, or
> > > both?  I'm
> > > talking grounding the Sender it's self not the
> tank!
> > > The sender is usually
> > > insulated by the O ring  I belive you said you
> > had a
> > > flashing light when
> > > testing at the sender wire at the back?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > > 
> > > From: William Harrison
> > > Date: 8/18/2010 8:40:17 AM
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: sending unit
> > > 
> > > I am to the point that I am really ready to take
> a BFH
> > to
> > > my 65 Coronet.
> > > I replaced the gas tank sending unit and the
> gauge
> > and
> > > still no reading.
> > > It just can't be 2 new sending units in a row
> can
> > it??
> > > Thoughts???
> > > Thanks
> > > Bill Harrison
> > > 
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> > parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as
> other
> > personal messages only to the intended recipient, not
> to the
> > Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect
> your
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> the
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