RE: sending unit

[Jeff Adams <ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Every time I would complain about issues with a car I was wrenching on, 
my buddy Matt would say "That's Hotrodding!".
Ollie wrote:
> 
> I have been reading every E mail regarding the fuel gauges. I have a 
> fuel 
> gauge problem in MS Cruiser.
> I have a stock fuel sender unit that I bought from Kramer. The better, 
> more 
> expensive,  made in USA one. So I was told
> I am using autometer gauges....straight 12V
> When I bought the sending unit Cindy told me to use the 80-100 gauge. 
> That 
> is a GM gauge. (please correct me if I am wrong on the ohms) I did ask 
> the 
> ohms of the sending unit as I knew I was going to use autometer not 
> stock.
> I fill the tank full. Gauge goes to full. Does not move off full till 
> you 
> are down to 5 gallons in the tank. Drops rapidly at 8-10 mpg. At 1/8 
> tank 
> you are walking. I will not run out of gas.
> About a year ago I started a discussion on the ohms reading of our 
> senders. 
> The 4/74 is correct. I beleive this after reasearch. Light goes off, 
> wrong 
> gauge!! I bought a Chrysler ohm gauge from Autometer. Swapped gauges. 
> NOTHING !! Went back to old relayable...if the gauge reads 1/2 STOP 
> IMMEDIATELY>>BUY FUEL !!
> I have tried grounding, nothing more that holding up a wire while wife 
> operates key and reports results. Nothing ,, but maybe not a good 
> ground?
> Gary H made a post regarding the ground strap. I looked in my shop 
> manual no 
> info. I never had one on MS Cruiser. Now it has been explained better.
> Someone also made a post regarding the contact on the coil of the 
> sending 
> unit..need to check this.
>  So Bill I do suffer your pain too! If it makes you feel better, no gauge 
>  on 
> the Petty Car, just open the 8 gal fuel cell and look. My Rambler has a 
> note 
> pad on the rear view mirror instead of fuzzie dice, fill up every 200 
> miles.
> Ain't are old cars FUN? As my buddy Rich says "Having Fun Yet?"
> Ollie
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Herb" <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: sending unit
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ya the ring, not reliable! Your car had a ground strap made of heavy tin
> that snapped over the fuel line and the nipple on the sender bridging 
> the
> rubber hose thus the ground from the factory.  A lot of people removed 
> them
> not realizing what they are or they just biodegraded and fell off.  You 
> may
> get lucky and get a temporary ground through the straps and the locking 
> ring
> but the slightest corrosion will cancel that out, much like on a dirty
> battery terminal.  It is called electrolytic corrosion caused by two
> dissimilar metals in contact with each other.  The corrosion is a good
> insulator!  Look at it like the metals don't like each other and build 
> up a
> barrier so they don't have to touch each other!  I believe Gary H had a 
> link
> to the re-pop of the factory ground bridge on here not long ago if you 
> want
> to go that route.  For now what I would do (It ant pretty but) is get 
> two
> hose clamps and a eyelet and a long piece of wire that need not be 
> insulated
>   Hose clamp the wire to the nipple between the hose and base of the 
>   sender,
> jump over the hose to the fuel line clean it up and hose clamp the wire 
> to
> the fuel line.  That should work as a ground just fine but, grounding it 
> to
> the frame also will be even better.  That will give you a three point 
> ground
> if your with me!  Now if you have a flashing test light at the wire in 
> the
> back and a good connection to your sender I bet your gauge will work!  
> Let
> me know how this works.
> 
> 
>              
>  Herb
> 
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> 
> -------Original Message-------
> 
> From: William Harrison
> Date: 8/18/2010 9:29:03 AM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: sending unit
> 
> Herb
> The unit is supposed to be grounded by the locking ring but it could be 
> that
> it is not working.
> I just now remembered that after I had the underside of the car sand 
> blasted
>  I then painted it with a por 15 type of paint and I also lined the top 
>  of
> the tank area with rubber, so it could be that I don't have a 
> ground....Doh.
> 
> I will attach a separate ground wire today.
> Thanks
> Bill
> - On Wed, 8/18/10, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 10:12 AM
> >
> >
> > Are you grounding the sender to the fuel line or frame, or
> > both?  I'm
> > talking grounding the Sender it's self not the tank!
> > The sender is usually
> > insulated by the O ring  I belive you said you had a
> > flashing light when
> > testing at the sender wire at the back?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: William Harrison
> > Date: 8/18/2010 8:40:17 AM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: sending unit
> >
> > I am to the point that I am really ready to take a BFH to
> > my 65 Coronet.
> > I replaced the gas tank sending unit and the gauge and
> > still no reading.
> > It just can't be 2 new sending units in a row can it??
> > Thoughts???
> > Thanks
> > Bill Harrison
> >
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Jeff Adams
64 Polara


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