I would at least like to drive it more than a mile at a time!!!! --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Dennis J. <djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Dennis J. <djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: sending unit > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 6:53 AM > Sounds like a typical mopar day to > me, don't worry it gets better...... > DJ > > > --- On Thu, 8/19/10, William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > From: William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: sending unit > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 4:21 AM > > Took the tank out again and removed > > the sending unit. > > I attached a jumper wire to the hot wire and a ground > wire > > from the unit to the frame close to the ignition > switch. > > Turned the key on and lifted the > float....Nothing......But, > > noticed a slight movement when the float was down so > I > > reversed the position of the rheostat and lifted the > float > > and got movement of my gas gauge. > > Put it all back together and re=installed the tank > and > > attached the ground strap to the frame, turned the key > on > > and.......not working, said fuck it and started the > car and > > did some timing and idle adjustments and took the car > out on > > the road..... > > Ran hot and the transmission isn't shifting > > right.....Said fuck it again and parked it....Then > found a > > transmission fluid drip right under the area of the > > transmission that indicates the front seal is > > leaking......So now the lack of a working fuel gauge > is the > > least of my worries. > > Gonna set the car on jack stands and remove the tranny > and > > replace the front seal and while it is out I am going > to put > > the stock converter back in and get the 10 inch high > stall > > converter rebuilt and put it on the 496 stroker > motor. > > Later > > Bill Harrison > > 65 Coronet 2 dr post > > > > --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > From: Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject: Re: sending unit > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:53 PM > > > > > > I have been reading every E mail regarding the > fuel > > gauges. > > > I have a fuel gauge problem in MS Cruiser. > > > I have a stock fuel sender unit that I bought > from > > Kramer. > > > The better, more expensive, made in USA one. So > I > > was > > > told > > > I am using autometer gauges....straight 12V > > > When I bought the sending unit Cindy told me to > use > > the > > > 80-100 gauge. That is a GM gauge. (please correct > me > > if I am > > > wrong on the ohms) I did ask the ohms of the > sending > > unit as > > > I knew I was going to use autometer not stock. > > > I fill the tank full. Gauge goes to full. Does > not > > move off > > > full till you are down to 5 gallons in the tank. > > Drops > > > rapidly at 8-10 mpg. At 1/8 tank you are walking. > I > > will not > > > run out of gas. > > > About a year ago I started a discussion on the > ohms > > reading > > > of our senders. The 4/74 is correct. I beleive > this > > after > > > reasearch. Light goes off, wrong gauge!! I bought > a > > Chrysler > > > ohm gauge from Autometer. Swapped gauges. NOTHING > !! > > Went > > > back to old relayable...if the gauge reads 1/2 > STOP > > > IMMEDIATELY>>BUY FUEL !! > > > I have tried grounding, nothing more that holding > up a > > wire > > > while wife operates key and reports results. > Nothing > > ,, but > > > maybe not a good ground? > > > Gary H made a post regarding the ground strap. I > > looked in > > > my shop manual no info. I never had one on MS > Cruiser. > > Now > > > it has been explained better. > > > Someone also made a post regarding the contact on > the > > coil > > > of the sending unit..need to check this. > > > So Bill I do suffer your pain too! If it makes > you > > feel > > > better, no gauge on the Petty Car, just open the > 8 gal > > fuel > > > cell and look. My Rambler has a note pad on the > rear > > view > > > mirror instead of fuzzie dice, fill up every 200 > > miles. > > > Ain't are old cars FUN? As my buddy Rich says > "Having > > Fun > > > Yet?" > > > Ollie > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb" <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:14 PM > > > Subject: Re: sending unit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ya the ring, not reliable! Your car had a ground > strap > > made > > > of heavy tin > > > that snapped over the fuel line and the nipple on > the > > > sender bridging the > > > rubber hose thus the ground from the factory. A > lot > > > of people removed them > > > not realizing what they are or they just > biodegraded > > and > > > fell off. You may > > > get lucky and get a temporary ground through the > > straps and > > > the locking ring > > > but the slightest corrosion will cancel that out, > much > > like > > > on a dirty > > > battery terminal. It is called electrolytic > > corrosion > > > caused by two > > > dissimilar metals in contact with each other. > The > > > corrosion is a good > > > insulator! Look at it like the metals don't > like > > each > > > other and build up a > > > barrier so they don't have to touch each other! > I > > > believe Gary H had a link > > > to the re-pop of the factory ground bridge on > here not > > long > > > ago if you want > > > to go that route. For now what I would do (It > ant > > > pretty but) is get two > > > hose clamps and a eyelet and a long piece of wire > that > > need > > > not be insulated > > > Hose clamp the wire to the nipple between the > > hose and > > > base of the sender, > > > jump over the hose to the fuel line clean it up > and > > hose > > > clamp the wire to > > > the fuel line. That should work as a ground > just > > fine > > > but, grounding it to > > > the frame also will be even better. That will > give > > > you a three point ground > > > if your with me! Now if you have a flashing > test > > > light at the wire in the > > > back and a good connection to your sender I bet > your > > gauge > > > will work! Let > > > me know how this works. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Herb > > > > > > 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361 > > > 1959 Coronet 326 Poly > > > 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly > > > 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six > > > 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L > > > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361 > > > 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L > > > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L > > > St. Louis, MO. > > > > > > http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GOD Drives > > > a Plymouth > > > > > > ".... GOD, in his FURY, drove them forth from > > Eden...." > > > > > > Genesis 3:23 > > > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > From: William Harrison > > > Date: 8/18/2010 9:29:03 AM > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Re: sending unit > > > > > > Herb > > > The unit is supposed to be grounded by the > locking > > ring but > > > it could be that > > > it is not working. > > > I just now remembered that after I had the > underside > > of the > > > car sand blasted > > > I then painted it with a por 15 type of paint and > I > > also > > > lined the top of > > > the tank area with rubber, so it could be that I > don't > > have > > > a ground....Doh. > > > > > > I will attach a separate ground wire today. > > > Thanks > > > Bill > > > - On Wed, 8/18/10, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Subject: Re: sending unit > > > > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 10:12 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you grounding the sender to the fuel > line or > > > frame, or > > > > both? I'm > > > > talking grounding the Sender it's self not > the > > tank! > > > > The sender is usually > > > > insulated by the O ring I belive you said > you > > > had a > > > > flashing light when > > > > testing at the sender wire at the back? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > > > From: William Harrison > > > > Date: 8/18/2010 8:40:17 AM > > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: sending unit > > > > > > > > I am to the point that I am really ready to > take > > a BFH > > > to > > > > my 65 Coronet. > > > > I replaced the gas tank sending unit and > the > > gauge > > > and > > > > still no reading. > > > > It just can't be 2 new sending units in a > row > > can > > > it?? > > > > Thoughts??? > > > > Thanks > > > > Bill Harrison > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > Please address private mail -- mail of > interest > > to > > > only one > > > > person -- > > > > directly to that person. I.e., send > parts/car > > > > transactions and negotiations > > > > as well as other personal messages only to > the > > > intended > > > > recipient, not to > > > > the Clubhouse public address. This practice > will > > > protect > > > > your privacy, > > > > reduce the total volume of mail and fine > tune > > the > > > content > > > > signal to Mopar > > > > topic. Thanks! > > > > > > > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion > > Guidelines: > > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > > > http://www > > > > > > 1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > Please address private mail -- mail of > interest > > to > > > only one > > > > person -- directly to that person. I.e., > send > > > > parts/car transactions and negotiations as > well > > as > > > other > > > > personal messages only to the intended > recipient, > > not > > > to the > > > > Clubhouse public address. This practice > will > > protect > > > your > > > > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and > fine > > tune > > > the > > > > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > > > > > > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion > > Guidelines: > > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest > to > > only one > > > person -- directly to that person. I.e., > send > > > parts/car transactions and negotiations as well > as > > other > > > personal messages only to the intended recipient, > not > > to the > > > Clubhouse public address. This practice will > protect > > your > > > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine > tune > > the > > > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > > > > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion > Guidelines: > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest > to > > only one > > > person -- directly to that person. I.e., send > > > parts/car transactions and negotiations as well > as > > other > > > personal messages only to the intended recipient, > not > > to the > > > Clubhouse public address. This practice will > protect > > your > > > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine > tune > > the > > > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > > > > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion > Guidelines: > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >