i was at a swap this weekend and thought it interesting that prices were really reflective of the cars "worth" there was a 70 roadrunner 383/auto, turnkey for 5000, a 68 dodge half truck/van (not sure what those were called) you know the "little red wagon" anyway it was in very nice shape with a spare slant six for 4500, and the kicker was a mint 71 elcamino for 6000. you guys in california may be used to that but all were unusually low for the midwest. not so good if your selling but it seems like things are coming back to earth, maybe gas prices are starting to matter? tom __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com