RE: [Chrysler300] 110 octane gas

Following May be controversial, due to true believers, but I do not think stabil does anything, or very little,--cars still get ruined in storage (fuel system) with it in tank. Used it for years , still had trouble. The alcohol is still there, stabil or not. Maybe a Chemical engineer is in 300 club..see what IS in it.

Where possible we arranged a drain on tank , emptied tank by gas remover suction unit , or ran out of gas before long storage. Because you used it and “your car is now OK”, does not mean your car would not have been ok without it. Impossible to prove that, unless side by side, which happened several times by accident due to many cars stored . Same problems with or without it. Or no problems with or without it

Up there with VX-6, Marvel Mystery oil, “top oil lube” , fuel injector cleaner, STP , Christy Drygas, and all those other little 8$ bottles that fix transmissions, seal piston rings, extend engine life , fix radiator, make water cool better, etc. ..and “preserve gas”

Probably repackaged 10w.

Was it PT Barnum that said: (you know)

Input with a smile! Really!

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Boyle
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:58 PM
To: news4ge@xxxxxxx; retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx; chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 110 octane gas

The blue is formulated for today’s gas with alcohol. It is widely available at RV and boat stores and most auto stores

STA-BIL Fuel Stabilizer

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Marine Formula STABIL

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From: news4ge@xxxxxxx [mailto:news4ge@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:17 AM
To: jackcboyle@xxxxxxxxx; retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx; chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 110 octane gas

Why?

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From: Jack Boyle <jackcboyle@xxxxxxxxx>
To: 'retromobilia' <retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 'John L. Chesnutt' <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 'Chrysler300' <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, Jan 29, 2014 10:54 am
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 110 octane gas

Don’t forget to use blue stabil, not the good old red.

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf

Of retromobilia

Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:17 AM

To: John L. Chesnutt

Cc: Chrysler300

Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 110 octane gas

Right on! The ethanol free gasoline is a gift. In Lower California (which in

history was always leading the curve,) not now; our closest real gas is 265

miles away in a marina at lake Mead, AZ. As long as you use your car regularly

you are in good shape.

Here I store several cars and each gets about 500 miles per year. So stable gas

is paramount.

I am not certain of the modern formulation of Efree gas. Most modern fuels are

built for sealed fuel systems which have no air or very little accompanying or

standing on the fuel.

The gas I use is built for 20 years storage in vented tanks.

JJ

PS: on a recent drive through the desert in, 2012 Chrysler derivative, car. I

filled up with E-Free gas. I calculate the milage, by app. on fuelly.com, and

that leg netted 25% better milage over the ethanol fill-ups.!?

PPS: constantly running 80-90 mph traffic free old two-lane US routes, using

both types of fuel. Not totally scientific but significant.

  _____

From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: "Rob Kern" <robkern@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Carlton

Schroeder" <schroe99@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:26:46 PM

Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 110 octane gas

Hi Rob and Carlton,

Our 300C has 10 ½ :1 compression which I changed to in 1972 (complete engine

rebuild). It runs fine on pump gas and I intend to use only 91 ethanol free gas

the next time I fill the tank. We have three ethanol free gas stations just

outside of Portland, OR. With the 10 ½ compression the 300C goes like a bomb. We

live on a hill 700 feet elevation above Portland in the West Hills.

John C.

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf

Of Rob Kern

Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:55 PM

To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Carlton Schroeder

Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 110 octane gas

Carlton,

Octane does not equate to power. I did a 50/50 mix of 93 octane unleaded with

110 octane racing fuel in my C. After a while the car started to run rough and I

was told that a lot of lead deposits and carbon was probably getting on the

valves. I stopped using this mix and used a container of seafoam cleaner per

tank of 91 ethanol free with a can of octane treatment which brought octane to

93. This I did for two full tanks of fuel. Car runs smooth and I don’t have any

ping or dieseling in hot weather when shutting off the engine. For the 9.25:1

compression ratio on the standard 300C 392 Hemi, you really don’t need any more

than 93 octane. What is best is if you can get ethanol free gas. 300’ly, Rob

Kern

From: Carlton Schroeder <mailto:schroe99@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:52 AM

To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [Chrysler300] 110 octane gas

Hello,

It just came to my attention that right here in Eagle River, WI I can drive up

to a gas pump and load my 300C with leaded, non-ethanol, 110 octane gas; I just

have to tell a white lie and say I am using my car for ‘off road purposes’. It

does cost $7-8 per gallon and originates at a Sunoco refinery in PA. The pump

actually says 115 octane but by some government definition / computation method

/ regulation the supplier says it is designated 110 octane.

The supplier says most people (local racers) that buy it mix about 1 gallon of

the 110 octane gas with 3 gallons of non-ethanol premium which is readily

available around here.

I think the higher octane is primarily to prevent pinging in higher compression

engines and that hasn’t been a problem for me, but getting the lead-in seems

like it would be helpful. I only drive this 300C 200-300 miles a year.

I would appreciate advice or opinion about how to use this 110 octane gas.

Thanks,

Carlton Schroeder (in very cold and snowy Eagle River, WI - snowmobile capital

of the world)

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