[Chrysler300] American Classic WSW width

["Rich Barber" <c300@xxxxxxx>]

Good eye, Doug!

 

I see I erred in the third line of my original e-mail when I indicated the tires of interest were 15” when I really meant 14”, both of which are on both the catalog pages.  My head is swimming with tires and it is tiring.

 

Apparently, the 14” tire has a 1” WSW width for $261 and the 15” has a 1.6” WSW width for $155.  That price differential really chaps my hide.

 

See: http://store.cokertire.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=235/75R14 The picture of the 235/75R14 carries a caption that it has a 1” WSW.  The picture on the right of a 235/75R15 says its WSW is 1.6” wide.

 

Rich Barber

 

From: 2HsandaHeritage@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:2HsandaHeritage@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:21 PM
To: Rich Barber
Cc: Tom Cox; Chrysler300; millserAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J ( or K) with one inch whitewall

 

I believe that the American Classic tires have a 1.6 inch white wall.

I returned a defective set to Lucas - made in China.

 

Doug Warrener

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From: "Rich Barber" <c300@xxxxxxx>
To: millserAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Tom Cox" <tdcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Chrysler300" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:26:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J ( or K) with one inch whitewall

  

I’m shopping tires for my 300K. The build card indicates 8.50 X 14 Rayon tires came on it and this is consistent with the 8.50 x 14 being standard on ram cars and optional on other K’s.

American Classic seems to have a P235/75R15 with 1” WSW. 

See: http://www.americanclassictires.com/types-of-whitewall-tires/75-series-narrow-whitewall/ 

Lucas and others retail them. See: http://www.lucasclassictires.com/RADIALS031811_1749.htm $261, each at Lucas or Coker.

This site has a comprehensive set of dimensions for tires, old and new: http://carnut.com/specs/tires.html 

8.50/8.55 x 14 height: 28.1”, P225/75R14: 27.3”, P235/75R14: 27.9” (American Classic spec’s: 27.87”)

It would be good to hear from anyone having installed a set of P235/75R-14’s on a 1964 300K. Any problems with difficulty in balance, premature wear or failure? rubbing on suspension? alignment issues? Appearance? Would be good to know before buying five of these overpriced tires. American Classic seems to have a monopoly on this size.

BTW, I had one ruined tire on the 1964 300K I just took delivery on, so I had it removed from the wheel. The wheel is stamped on the inside with 14X6K-1 and, underneath the size, the numbers 2 and 64—and nearby the word “Kelsey”. As the car was shipped 12/12/63, the 2 64 possible date mark is puzzling. 

Having no spare for the K, I installed the spare from my ’55 C300. The 3” WSW L78-15 on a wire wheel looked pretty sharp!

C300K’ly,

Rich Barber

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Edward Mills Antique Tractors
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:18 AM
To: retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net> 
Cc: Tom Cox; Chrysler300
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J with one inch whitewall

Plenty of options in the smaller size P215/75R14 (old 8.00-14/8.25-14) 
or P225/70R14 (G70-14). See Firestone, Cooper, Hankook, Khumo, maybe Toyo.

Nothing in P225/75R14 (8.50-14/8.55-14). Not much in P235/75R14 (See 
Coker / American Classic).

Diamondback mostly adds whitewalls to existing blackwall carcasses 
(Michelin, Goodrich, or whatever) - you can pretty much get any 
whitewall width - but you have to have a blackwall tire as a starting 
point and currently there is nothing in the bigger 14 inch to start with.

On 8/31/2011 11:37 AM, retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net>  <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I am committed to using 14 inch tires. any suggestions? What are 
> DiamondBacks? I like th 1 1/4 to 2.0 inch whitewalls.....
>
> J D Jung
> Retromobilia.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Cox" <tdcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net>  <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net> <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net>>
> To: "C Bilter" <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com>  <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com> <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com>>, 
> Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:45:47 AM
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J with one inch whitewall
>
> I am running DiamondBacks for all my classic cars. Never a problem; I 
> love
> them and would use no one else. Pricey, maybe, but great quality and good
> service.
>
> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: 
> Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of C Bilter
> Sent: 2011-08-30 7:50 PM
> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Whitewall Tires for H or J with one inch whitewall
>
> Other than Diamondback ($$$$) I am finding virtually squat for the 
> correct
> whitewall in radials. Several years ago this was no problem for the
> P235/75R15 tire. Now, Broadway Classics and Dimension IV are no longer
> made, American Classics only have 1.6” in this size, and Cooper and 
> others
> only have a ¾” whitewall. The only one close to the correct 1 and 
> 1/16” to
> 1 and 1/8” I can find is Champiro 75 by GT Radial with a 1.25” 
> whitewall. I
> am extremely hesitant to go with these, both on principle because they 
> are
> made in Asia and also because I suspect they are junk. Has anyone tried
> them? Has anyone found other tires in the last year or so with the proper
> whitewall? I will not put a ¾” whitewall on a J; it doesn’t look 
> right, and
> I will not run bias plys, which actually cost even more. Whitewalls at 
> the
> tire stores are going down the path to oblivion faster than a shine 
> runner
> in a 300C. Looks like 1.6 inch American Classics or cough up the coin for
> Diamondbacks unless anyone has a better idea.
>
> 300Jly,
>
> Carl Bilter





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