Re: [Chrysler300] Old wife's (mechanics) Oil tales

["Ron Stewart" <rstewart@xxxxxxxxxx>]

simbly put , answer your own questions, buy a mopar performance catalog,  at 
dealers or on line. C300 RON
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From: "elmer tuuri" <eltuuri@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Old wife's (mechanics) Oil tales


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> All Mopar 340's had a windage tray----Elmer
>>From: christopher beilby <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>CC: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [Chrysler300] Old wife's (mechanics) Oil tales
>>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:45:52 +1000
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>>So someone finally mentioned Pontiac's use of windage trays. A couple of
>>motors (Pontiac) I have did indeed use windage trays, and there are two
>>basic versions used around late 60s early 70s I know of. One was not quite
>>full length, whilst the other was/is, and ran right to the nose area of 
>>the
>>sump. They usually bolt up with a couple of small bolts each to a fronter
>>and rearer main bearing cap, and run right out to the outer edge of the
>>block each side. And obviously the longer the stroke (say 400 versus 421,
>>428/455), the more curved/deeper the tray must be.
>>
>>And usually, the higher performance the motor/use, firstly as to whether
>>one used, plus then, the longer the tray.  They are stamped steel, and
>>there is a little dipstick tube extension one puts in as one bolts the 
>>tray
>>up, that allows dipstick to pass through tray into bottom of sump for
>>correct reading  of oil level.
>>
>>Chrysler may have used some form of windage trays, but I am unaware of
>>street used say 331 - 392 hemis having them, whereas they are/were near
>>universal in say many late 60s higher hp GTOs, and both my 428 69 SJ GP,
>>and 70 455 SJ Grand Prix have the full length one, plus 67 360hp 400 motor
>>in my convertible.
>>
>>Maybe some 300 member out there knows of what hp gain different 300s get 
>>if
>>one fitted - Pontiac quoted some figure, but I do not remember it (maybe
>>10-20hp at high revs?) - another also fairly common (pontiac) hp 'winner;
>>is to fit 'crank scrapers' that bolt up at sump edges and are so close a
>>fit, they scrape oil off rotating crank for more hp gain.
>>
>>Once again, whilst pretty common on Ebay nowadays re Pontiac, I do not 
>>know
>>if anyone markets one for hemis or wedges unless of a semi race
>>application? Anyone out there with hemi/wedge 300 that has fitted a tray
>>and/or scraper, and what benefit/gain?!
>>
>>Christopher in Australia where our bad gas prices getting higher once
>>again, never mind seemingly near everything else - China is buying too 
>>much
>>of it/everything we are told, so we must pay more to keep some here, plus
>>our drought has returned with a vengance after a few autumn rains earlier
>>fooled near everyone that it was finally over.
>>
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>>CC: hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>>paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Wed, 17 Oct 2007
>>16:43:01 -0500Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Old wife's (mechanics) tales
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>>I think that's not quite right, Paul.It's called a Windage Tray because it
>>keeps the WIND created by the spinning crank from foaming and aerating the
>>oil.The crank never actually hits the oil unless it's overfilled. Spinning
>>at 6K+ rpms can fog the oil and actually pull it up around the spinning
>>parts and maybe starve the pump.RayOn Oct 17, 2007, at 5:24 PM,
>>paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:Ok I do not recall anyone mentioning 
>>this,when
>>the crankcase is FULL , the crank (in motion) smacks intothe pooled oil,
>>casting the spray up on the lower cavities of theblock, cooling and oiling
>>are the expected results of this action.[Non-text portions of this message
>>have been removed]
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