RE: [Chrysler300] Old wife's (mechanics) Oil tales

["elmer tuuri" <eltuuri@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I thought all 340's were Hi-PO    Ellmer


>From: "Paul Thomassen" <thomassenp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "elmer tuuri" 
><eltuuri@xxxxxxxxxxx>,<thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>,<Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Old wife's (mechanics) Oil tales
>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:02:00 -0500
>
>Not all 340's had windage trays, just the Hi-Preformance ones.
>
>Windage trays came on the 79 Cordoba 300 as regular equipment.
>
>You can buy 440 and 340 windage trays now, about $50, the 440 windage
>trays bolt between the engine block and pan (you use 2 gaskets).  The
>340 style are suspended from the inside.
>
>Paul Thomassen
>Pella, IA
>
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>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:55 PM
>To: thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Old wife's (mechanics) Oil tales
>
>
>
>All Mopar 340's had a windage tray----Elmer
> >From: christopher beilby <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >CC: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [Chrysler300] Old wife's (mechanics) Oil tales
> >Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:45:52 +1000
> >
> >
> >So someone finally mentioned Pontiac's use of windage trays. A couple
>of
> >motors (Pontiac) I have did indeed use windage trays, and there are two
>
> >basic versions used around late 60s early 70s I know of. One was not
>quite
> >full length, whilst the other was/is, and ran right to the nose area of
>the
> >sump. They usually bolt up with a couple of small bolts each to a
>fronter
> >and rearer main bearing cap, and run right out to the outer edge of the
>
> >block each side. And obviously the longer the stroke (say 400 versus
>421,
> >428/455), the more curved/deeper the tray must be.
> >
> >And usually, the higher performance the motor/use, firstly as to
>whether
> >one used, plus then, the longer the tray.  They are stamped steel, and
> >there is a little dipstick tube extension one puts in as one bolts the
>tray
> >up, that allows dipstick to pass through tray into bottom of sump for
> >correct reading  of oil level.
> >
> >Chrysler may have used some form of windage trays, but I am unaware of
> >street used say 331 - 392 hemis having them, whereas they are/were near
>
> >universal in say many late 60s higher hp GTOs, and both my 428 69 SJ
>GP,
> >and 70 455 SJ Grand Prix have the full length one, plus 67 360hp 400
>motor
> >in my convertible.
> >
> >Maybe some 300 member out there knows of what hp gain different 300s
>get if
> >one fitted - Pontiac quoted some figure, but I do not remember it
>(maybe
> >10-20hp at high revs?) - another also fairly common (pontiac) hp
>'winner;
> >is to fit 'crank scrapers' that bolt up at sump edges and are so close
>a
> >fit, they scrape oil off rotating crank for more hp gain.
> >
> >Once again, whilst pretty common on Ebay nowadays re Pontiac, I do not
>know
> >if anyone markets one for hemis or wedges unless of a semi race
> >application? Anyone out there with hemi/wedge 300 that has fitted a
>tray
> >and/or scraper, and what benefit/gain?!
> >
> >Christopher in Australia where our bad gas prices getting higher once
> >again, never mind seemingly near everything else - China is buying too
>much
> >of it/everything we are told, so we must pay more to keep some here,
>plus
> >our drought has returned with a vengance after a few autumn rains
>earlier
> >fooled near everyone that it was finally over.
> >
> >
> >CC: hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> >paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Wed, 17 Oct 2007
> >16:43:01 -0500Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Old wife's (mechanics) tales
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I think that's not quite right, Paul.It's called a Windage Tray because
>it
> >keeps the WIND created by the spinning crank from foaming and aerating
>the
> >oil.The crank never actually hits the oil unless it's overfilled.
>Spinning
> >at 6K+ rpms can fog the oil and actually pull it up around the spinning
>
> >parts and maybe starve the pump.RayOn Oct 17, 2007, at 5:24 PM,
> >paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:Ok I do not recall anyone mentioning
>this,when
> >the crankcase is FULL , the crank (in motion) smacks intothe pooled
>oil,
> >casting the spray up on the lower cavities of theblock, cooling and
>oiling
> >are the expected results of this action.[Non-text portions of this
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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