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There are 15 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Digest Number 584
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. FW: Re: Rims for a D
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: 300B - Amelia Island
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
4. Bearings.
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
5. Alternators
From: "Park Waldrop" <pwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Fw: Chrysler Auto Transmission
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: Alternators
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Fw: Chrysler Auto Transmission
From: "Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. AAMCO Transmissions for Mopars
From: quentsmith@xxxxxxx
10. Re: California Members- Smog Test
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
11. RE: Fw: Chrysler Auto Transmission
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. C300 Power Steering Horn Ring
From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
13. C300 horn ring
From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
14. 1970 Headlight Motor
From: "Paul Thomassen" <thomassenp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
15. Re: Alternators
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:51:24 -0600
From: "Wayne Graefen" <wgraefen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 584
Hi Andy,
Message: 10
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:06:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Chrysler 300 intro dates...
Hi all,
I'm fielding a question from Collectible Automobile
magazine regarding the relationship between 300 intro
dates and regular line intro dates. If anyone can
fill in any of the blanks below, please do!
Thanks,
Andy
Year 300 intro production start reg. intro
55 1/17/55 2/10/55
56 1/4/56 12/55
57 12/8/56 (NY Auto Show) 12/56 (pilot cars 1001 {9/56}, 1002 and
1003 {10/56} reg. intro 10/29/66 (ref: Std. Cat of Am Cars,
Krause)
58 12/5/57
59
60 9/59
61 11/17/60 9/60 9/28/60
62
63 11/5/62
64
65
Andy, If you don't come up with other reg. intro dates, I'll pull
any you need from the same book.
Wayne
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:59:02 -0500
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: FW: Re: Rims for a D
> Larry,
> Try a set of wheels from a Volare V8 station wagon. I believe they're the
> same as what you're looking for.
>
> Mark Souders
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:01 PM
> To: MJVATH@xxxxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Re: Rims for a D
>
> Can't see how a photo would help much. The real importance is the bolt
> pattern and the wheel diameter and the width. Since our cars all have
> full
> wheel covers, provision for dog dish hub caps or not is immaterial. Many
>
> Ford products have the same bolt pattern and would work if they were 14 x
> 6.5. Use of Ford lug nuts is recommended on Ford wheels so that the angle
> of
> the wheel to nut matchs. Mopar and Ford use different angled nuts to
> match
> the lug hole angle on the wheels.
>
> Larry W Jett
> 950 Woodside Road Suite 4
> Redwood City CA 94061
> 650 368 3966
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:36:47 -0800
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300B - Amelia Island
I saw a number 3(on its best day) C-300 sell at RM auction in Phoenix in January. Believe went for about 32K plus fees. As usual I am always in suspect of auction sales. This is the same auction where all the 57-59 300 convertibles out of Texas purportedly sold and now appear(I got this info from a previous missive on Listsrv) that they are listed at another upcoming auction in its manifest.
Roger Schaaf
300 B Calif
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From: cotejohnr@xxxxxxx
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] 300B - Amelia Island
Attention all you 300B owners,
We're getting some respect!
The Amelia Island (March 8) auction results listed in "Old Cars Weekly"
listed a 300B, powerflite that sold for $39,000 plus 10% to =
$42,900...................in #3 condition!!
What would numbers 1's and 2's bring? Ya' gotta believe!!
John Cote
CT.
300 B & C . ; Headin' for Greenville, S.C. for AACA National Meet 4/12 with
the "B".
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:33:53 +1200
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Bearings.
Hi all,
Does anyone know of a good supplier of bearings, specifically transmission bearings. After waiting 8 weeks for my local supplier in Auckland,NZ to source the wrong bearings and of a quality not fit for my lawnmower, I was hoping some of you knowledgeable people on the list may be able to point me in the right direction.
The bearings I need are the input shaft to housing {part # 1672 194} & rear mainshaft to housing {1633 718} for a '57-'59 Mopar 3-speed manual. Because we have upped the engine hp, I would prefer to use a modern day, high load, bearing as opposed to an NOS one.
I also have the numbers off the old bearngs if needed.
Thanks so much for any help with this.
Owen
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:12:37 -0500
From: "Park Waldrop" <pwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Alternators
For those interested in replacing the 12v generator with an alternator, here's my two bits' worth:
I prefer to use the standard 10-SI series Delco units, wired the way they are designed to be. It's simple, and that way you can walk into any parts store and get another one. They come in either 65A or 80A versions. 80A capacity is plenty.
NAPA part # for the 80A version is 13-4200 (listed for '78-82 Chevy Malibu and others with small block V-8).
Use your existing voltage regulator's 'BAT' terminal as a convenient terminal point:
1.Remove wires from the ARM and FLD terminals on the regulator (these are coming from the respective terminals on the generator, of course ... you can hide them or cut them off). Leave all wires on the ''BAT'' terminal of the VR where they are. Run a #10 wire from alternator output (''BAT'') terminal to the regulator's BAT terminal.
2. Make a short jumper (18 ga. is fine) to connect the #2 ''spade'' terminal on the alternator to its 'BAT' terminal (this is to feed the alternator's internal voltage regulator).
3. Connnect the #1 spade terminal on the alternator to the ignition switch, through a 10 ohm, 10 watt rated resistor (this provides a ''startup'' voltage to the alternator to get it going initially). Here again, 18 ga. wire is fine, as the current is quite low.
That's it. Your ammeter and all else will work as it did with the generator.
Park Waldrop
'C' cpe - Atlanta
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:48:03 -0800
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fw: Chrysler Auto Transmission
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger L. Schaaf
To: Chrysler 300 list service
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: Chrysler Auto Transmission
Friend of mine has a 1998 Chrysler Mini Van that at 50,000(yes that is what I thought too!) miles has almost lost its transmission. Grinds in 1st and 2nd while driving. Local dealer says 2,300.00 to replace. AAMCO says 1,900.00
Anyone have idea on good source for rebuilt or remanufactured Chrysler transmissions? I found a website(www.rebuilt-auto-tranmission.com ) where they advertise 1,200.00 but still sounds high but could be fair if good company. At that price when paying shipping and for installation probably better off at Chrysler dealer or AAMCO
I am ready to duck the incoming's for asking for info on a non 300 Chrysler part but this info could be of use to 300 owners also.
Roger Schaaf
300 B Calif
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:01:19 -0800
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Alternators
Now if you could just tell me how to run my power steering pump on my B off the back of an alternator I would be in business.
Aw, I was just kidding. Your tip was fascinating.
Roger Schaaf
300 B Calif
----- Original Message -----
From: Park Waldrop
To: Chrysler 300 Group
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:12 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Alternators
For those interested in replacing the 12v generator with an alternator, here's my two bits' worth:
I prefer to use the standard 10-SI series Delco units, wired the way they are designed to be. It's simple, and that way you can walk into any parts store and get another one. They come in either 65A or 80A versions. 80A capacity is plenty.
NAPA part # for the 80A version is 13-4200 (listed for '78-82 Chevy Malibu and others with small block V-8).
Use your existing voltage regulator's 'BAT' terminal as a convenient terminal point:
1.Remove wires from the ARM and FLD terminals on the regulator (these are coming from the respective terminals on the generator, of course ... you can hide them or cut them off). Leave all wires on the ''BAT'' terminal of the VR where they are. Run a #10 wire from alternator output (''BAT'') terminal to the regulator's BAT terminal.
2. Make a short jumper (18 ga. is fine) to connect the #2 ''spade'' terminal on the alternator to its 'BAT' terminal (this is to feed the alternator's internal voltage regulator).
3. Connnect the #1 spade terminal on the alternator to the ignition switch, through a 10 ohm, 10 watt rated resistor (this provides a ''startup'' voltage to the alternator to get it going initially). Here again, 18 ga. wire is fine, as the current is quite low.
That's it. Your ammeter and all else will work as it did with the generator.
Park Waldrop
'C' cpe - Atlanta
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:13:05 -0700
From: "Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fw: Chrysler Auto Transmission
Hello Group-
My experience with the new computer controlled transmissions is this-
they do not last any where near as long as the rwd torqueflites did. My 94
Vision fried its transmission at 100,000 mile after being serviced at 50,000
and no hard or severe use. The next one, a 98 Intrepid w/111,000 miles was
headed that way. Never serviced the Intrepid trany- figured why after the
last one? At work we use a 99 Dodge 1 ton 15 pass. van and it has gone thru
3 transmissions in 90,000 miles, 90% interstate miles, never loaded to max,
never tows anything. ALSO- when it comes to these new transmissions- cheaper
is definitely not better. A good friend of mine just retired from the
business after 30+ years and he was thoroughly disgusted with the way the
"new" stuff is designed and built. My advise is- wherever you get the work
done- shop for the best warranty, then price. You may save the cost of
another tranny job for a few hundred bucks, if you have problems again. See
the van story above......Ist time out of factory warranty, second warranty,
third as well. If you go thru the dealer it should be covered at any dealer,
especially if they install a factory remanufactured unit thru Mopar parts.
Joe Pierce.
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From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 list service" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:48 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Fw: Chrysler Auto Transmission
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger L. Schaaf
> To: Chrysler 300 list service
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:35 PM
> Subject: Chrysler Auto Transmission
>
>
> Friend of mine has a 1998 Chrysler Mini Van that at 50,000(yes that is
what I thought too!) miles has almost lost its transmission. Grinds in 1st
and 2nd while driving. Local dealer says 2,300.00 to replace. AAMCO says
1,900.00
>
> Anyone have idea on good source for rebuilt or remanufactured Chrysler
transmissions? I found a website(www.rebuilt-auto-tranmission.com ) where
they advertise 1,200.00 but still sounds high but could be fair if good
company. At that price when paying shipping and for installation probably
better off at Chrysler dealer or AAMCO
>
> I am ready to duck the incoming's for asking for info on a non 300
Chrysler part but this info could be of use to 300 owners also.
>
> Roger Schaaf
> 300 B Calif
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 00:42:16 EST
From: quentsmith@xxxxxxx
Subject: AAMCO Transmissions for Mopars
I used to own an AAMCO dealership here in California and I would like to add
something to the mix here. When purchasing a rebuilt unit you have the choice
of several warranties available when you get one at AAMCO. It used to be that
you could get a warranty that would last as long as the car did and the
original owner. I do not know if that is still the case. I know at one time
they were going to drop it. It makes sense if your vehicle is a classic 300
or the like and get a warranty like that, paying the additional amount.
Likewise, the AAMCO dealer network is all over the country, so if something
goes wrong you will be near a shop that can fix it. They use the same parts
as any Chrysler dealer would and sometimes even better when they have to
warrant the thing for a long time. I would check out that situation and see
if the lifetime warranty still exists. I sold my shop in 1981 and have not
kept up with their policies. Quentin Smith
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:23:04 -0800
From: "John L. Chesnutt" <chesnutt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: California Members- Smog Test
California Senate Bill 708 - Exemption to Smog Testing - Autos.
Our son who works in the environmental area in California has the following
to say about the above Bill 708:
I also looked up the senate bill today and while
it says your car is exempt from testing if it is 45 years or older, it also
says that 1974 or older cars are also exempt if you drive the car less than
12,000 miles a year. If I read that correctly, that would work for me. -
(He has a 1967 Ford Fairlane )
Nevertheless, I wrote an email to my local senator, who is also on the
transportation committee where this issue is coming up.
John & Arlys Chesnutt, Portland, OR.
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From: "Chuck McGill" <chuxter@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] California Members
>
>
>
> Have you heard of Senate bill SB 708?
> (One of our members brought it up several weeks ago.)
>
> It cancels the smog test exemptions of SB 42, which exempted 1973 and
older
> cars from the requirement for smog testing. The new bill will require a
smog
> test every two years until these cars are 45 years old.
>
> The bill is scheduled for a vote around the 25th of this month and if
> passed, will go into effect Jan, 1 2005. Take a look at
> http://www.smogrfg.com for more information.
>
> If you would spend hours and days and miles to get a PART for your car,
> consider 10 or 15 minutes to contact your senator and save your WHOLE car.
>
> Chuck
> San Jose, Ca.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 06:56:28 -0500
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Fw: Chrysler Auto Transmission
Roger,
A few years back, I had my Grand Caravan transmission rebuilt because I
didn't feel like paying $1,700 to replace it. I had the work done at a
(then) local trans shop, AAA Transmissions, in Florence SC. The total bill
was $900. They had a "complete Chrysler rebuild kit" on the shelf,
apparently these transmissions are predictable. I drove the van another 60K
miles and then traded it in. It performed well after the rebuild and a
painter is now using it for his business.
Mark Souders
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obiwan10 [SMTP:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:48 PM
> To: Chrysler 300 list service
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Fw: Chrysler Auto Transmission
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger L. Schaaf
> To: Chrysler 300 list service
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:35 PM
> Subject: Chrysler Auto Transmission
>
>
> Friend of mine has a 1998 Chrysler Mini Van that at 50,000(yes that is
> what I thought too!) miles has almost lost its transmission. Grinds in
> 1st and 2nd while driving. Local dealer says 2,300.00 to replace. AAMCO
> says 1,900.00
>
> Anyone have idea on good source for rebuilt or remanufactured Chrysler
> transmissions? I found a website(www.rebuilt-auto-tranmission.com ) where
> they advertise 1,200.00 but still sounds high but could be fair if good
> company. At that price when paying shipping and for installation probably
> better off at Chrysler dealer or AAMCO
>
> I am ready to duck the incoming's for asking for info on a non 300
> Chrysler part but this info could be of use to 300 owners also.
>
> Roger Schaaf
> 300 B Calif
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 08:51:13 -0500
From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: C300 Power Steering Horn Ring
Thanks to a clumsy valet, I am now in need of the steering wheel chrome horn
ring for a power steering C300.
thanks, Sean.
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Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 10:42:48 -0500
From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: C300 horn ring
any help that any of you can be as to what the interchange on this item will
also aid me in my search.
thanks, Sean.
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:25:19 -0600
From: "Paul Thomassen" <thomassenp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 1970 Headlight Motor
Needing Help,
The headlight motor on my 1970 300 is in the need for a rebuild. The motor runs as it should, but it does not raise or lower the headlight doors, and the motor keeps running. It seems I recall a new replacement gear kit was available for these motors, but I do not remember the part number. Any information will help.
Thanks
Paul Thomassen
thomassenp@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:27:05 -0800
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Alternators
I would not know how many were built with manual steering, but I do know
that if mine had it, I could drop my membership at the gym for maintaining
my upper arms and chest.
John Madden who lives in Southern Calif has a red C-300 that he is close to
finishing a beautiful frame up restoration on which has absolutely no
options(which also means no radio or heater).
Would be interesting to know how many with no options or now PS or PB. Gil
Cunningham and his records may know. I assume that the old race cars did
not have power steering but I do not know.
Anyone out there have any ideas? Any records out there on 55's and 56's
with AC, manual trans(in 56 as well as torqueflights), record players, gas
heaters, colors, etc. etc. I do know in the Corvette world you can get
records that show how many of all combinations of options were built.
How about estimates on how many 55's and 56's are left out there? These
numbers could be roughly calculated by counting those registered in the
membership roles of both clubs.
Roger Schaaf
300 B Calif
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baker" <jbaker22@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Alternators
> Roger,
> My 300B has manual steering. I know you didn't ask for this. I wondered if
> you would know how I could find out how many were made like this. All the
> ones that I have seen have power steering. I intend to keep it as original
> as I can.
> Thanks,
> John Baker
> Malabar Fl.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Chrysler 300 Group" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Park Waldrop"
> <pwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Alternators
>
>
> > Now if you could just tell me how to run my power steering pump on my B
> off the back of an alternator I would be in business.
> >
> > Aw, I was just kidding. Your tip was fascinating.
> >
> > Roger Schaaf
> > 300 B Calif
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Park Waldrop
> > To: Chrysler 300 Group
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:12 PM
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] Alternators
> >
> >
> > For those interested in replacing the 12v generator with an
alternator,
> here's my two bits' worth:
> >
> > I prefer to use the standard 10-SI series Delco units, wired the way
> they are designed to be. It's simple, and that way you can walk into any
> parts store and get another one. They come in either 65A or 80A versions.
> 80A capacity is plenty.
> >
> > NAPA part # for the 80A version is 13-4200 (listed for '78-82 Chevy
> Malibu and others with small block V-8).
> >
> > Use your existing voltage regulator's 'BAT' terminal as a convenient
> terminal point:
> > 1.Remove wires from the ARM and FLD terminals on the regulator (these
> are coming from the respective terminals on the generator, of course ...
you
> can hide them or cut them off). Leave all wires on the ''BAT'' terminal
of
> the VR where they are. Run a #10 wire from alternator output (''BAT'')
> terminal to the regulator's BAT terminal.
> > 2. Make a short jumper (18 ga. is fine) to connect the #2 ''spade''
> terminal on the alternator to its 'BAT' terminal (this is to feed the
> alternator's internal voltage regulator).
> > 3. Connnect the #1 spade terminal on the alternator to the ignition
> switch, through a 10 ohm, 10 watt rated resistor (this provides a
> ''startup'' voltage to the alternator to get it going initially). Here
> again, 18 ga. wire is fine, as the current is quite low.
> >
> > That's it. Your ammeter and all else will work as it did with the
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