Bad Santa : Rene Kroeger !!!

["John J. Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

 Mike, please be aware that the Club's officers ARE involved in this
unpleasant matter.  We (the officers) were all hoping that the matter could
be resolved amicably.  I can tell you that an investigation is ongoing, and
our Club president is involved.  There will be no hasty decision made. 

Now let's all turn our thoughts to more pleasant matters and figure out at
least 300 novel ways to have a wonderful Christmas - how's THAT for 300
content?   Happy holidays to all.

John Hertog
Sag Harbor NY



-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Reed
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:46 AM
To: Tony Braams; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: merle.wolfer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Bad Santa : Rene Kroeger !!!

It is my view that club officers should verify Tony's allegations, and if
found to be true and accurate (of which I am all but certain they are), then
person should be stripped ofis membership in the club and be banned from
ever belonging to the club again. The "other club" should also be notified
(if not already), and should follow the same course of action.

This should not be tolerated under any circumstances. This appears to go way
past misunderstanding. I view this as a very serious matter, and believe it
should be dealt with by the club as soon as possible!

Mike Reed
Lake Odessa, Michigan

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Tony Braams
  To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:32
  Subject: [Chrysler300] Bad Santa : Rene Kroeger !!!


  Hello 300 Group,
  Tony Braams, here in Australia.
  This is an update on my previous list messages concerning "Dodgy" 300
  club member Rene Kroeger, of Bondurant, Iowa. I phoned and agreed to buy
  several '57 Chrysler parts from Rene [Bad Santa], back in September,
  after reading a Newsflite advertisement. It was an early Xmas present
  that I didn't need.
  Rene sent some '56 Chrysler parts and never sent some parts at all. 
  All that I did recieve for $300 U.S. [$400 Aus.], of the 6 agreed items
  was just a pair of Globrite '57 tail lenses, which Rene valued at $70. I
  decided to have some weights of the correct and heavier '57 parts
  verified by a very trusted club member in the U.S. This was presented
  back to a very ignorant Rene [now Extremely Bad Santa].
  The recorded weights and costs of shipping when sent from the U.S. 
  and rec'd here in Australia totally proved the lighter '56 parts were in
  fact sent and that the other '57 parts were never sent at all.
  All along Santa Rene had said that everything that he agreed to send
  was DEFINATELY sent. Rene's response to my collected and verified
  weights, of low weights and low shipping costs etc? The Quick thinking
  Bad Santa Rene just then decided that he would now SWING the SLEIGH
  around to agree with my collected and VERIFIED evidence. Which clearly
  proved to his JOLLY SELF and the Seven Reindeers that Yo Ho Ho - NO,
  Santa Rene NEVER DID send the agreed parts at all.
  To LIE to the club member [and then back to me], who volunteered to look
  at and try to solve the problem.
  To just LIE AGAIN in saying that he never ever had those '57 Chrysler
  parts at all.
  And to then LIE AGAIN in saying that I only sent him $200, not $300.
  The problem was that I still had and e'mailed back the scanned copy
  of the western union money order that says, Surprise ... Rene Kroeger -
  $300. Anyway it's not so much the money, but the principal of what has
  occurred, from a fellow club member, within the club circle.
  Despite my best and controlled efforts to negotiate with Rene, he has
  just been denials and lies from the very beginning. His total
  unwillingness and ignorance to look at collected evidence, the
  documents, low shipping costs and weights etc. has just been a total
  brick wall.
  So if you are looking for some 300 parts to put under the Xmas tree,
  you might be best to look elsewhere, than the KROEGER BUNKER.
  BAD SANTA RENE'S - Ricketty, Unskyworthy Sleigh should be viewed with
  trepidation and suspicion.
  All I am asking for is for the several other club members who have
  had problems with Rene, to contact me back [when convenient], off the
  list server and for us to follow this up with the club, officially.
  I have recieved some fairly simple instructions from the club on how
  to go about doing this, no big deal and behind the scenes. I know we
  would all rather be focusing on all the positive aspects of the 300 club
  and the great cars.
  But I think we all need to ask ourselves one thing ... Do we really
  want or need people of this character to be connected with such a great
  club ? 
  Great to recieve the latest Newsflite with the pics of some 300
  owners and their cars.
  Best wishes to all - for a safe Xmas and lucky 2007.
  Tony in Oz.


   

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