RE: [Chrysler300] Hidden numbers

["John J. Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Gary, 
 
Actually, I think Fern answered your question quite well. Because these
numbers are "secret", they are the last line of defense against the creation
of "clones" and rebodied cars. If all info relating to these numbers is made
available to the public on a totally open basis, then, to use an analogy,
you've just handed the key to the safe to the thief...     Please remember
that any person needing to verify the authenticity of a given car can
request the Club's assistance at any time, and it is always freely given. 
 
I can personally state, from personal experience, that "secret number"
information has been the key to proving that certain "clones" out there are
definitely fakes. And I can also tell you that, if you make that information
totally public, you'll just be making it easier for unscrupulous characters
to rip off people.     My two cents' worth. 
 
John Hertog
Sag Harbor NY
 
 
 
 

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From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of c300c@xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:31 PM
To: crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Hidden numbers





Hi Fern,

Yes, I am referring to the stamped numbers on the frame. Why the secret??? 
Seems the people bidding on our cars should have a way to document the 
authenticity of the car. I e-mailed the seller of the 1961 G convertible on
E-bay 
with Gil's documentation, but never received an acknowledgement although I
sent 
it as an E-bay question to the seller..

I never received an answer. That is why I ask the question, WHY THE BIG 
SECRET?

Gary


In a message dated 8/29/2006 8:04:06 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
crc@cyberlink. <mailto:crc%40cyberlink.bc.ca> bc.ca writes:

Hi Gary:

Are you referring to the factory order numbers that are stamped in 2 
seperate locations on these cars? These numbers are not vin numbers 
but rather are shown on the microfiche records that Gil Cunningham has. 
If everyone knew what those numbers are supposed to be, it might be too 
tempting to some unscrupulous people to fake these cars. I took photos 
of those numbers when we restored my 300H convertible.
Cheers from Fern

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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Hidden numbers

> Hello fellow members, et al:
>
> As evidenced by a number of e-mails concerning "secret numbers" or 
> hidden ID
> for Chrysler 300's, many folks own (or have owned) vehicles without a 
> serial
> number plate on the door post due to time, rust, removal, theft etc. 
> The
> 1961 300-G convertible now on e-bay is a prime example.
>
> My question is: why are the factory serial number locations secret? 
> If
> someone knows the location of the factory serial number stampings, 
> that or those
> person(s) would do a great service to the membership by revealing 
> those
> locations.
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> I now await the nay-sayers.
>
> 300'ly, Gary Hagy, Hamburg, PA
>
> 300-C (without a door plate, but confirmed by Gil)
> 300-C Conv.
> 300-E
> 300-G Conv.
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