Re: [Chrysler300] Gas Chemistry

["Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sounds like God's country!  Bill and Hillary still living in New York?

Roger Schaaf
300 B Calif
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Jones 
  To: Roger Schaaf 
  Cc: Chrysler 300 ; Bob Jasinski 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Gas Chemistry


  Sounds like many are not happy with the way life is.

  Well fellows, we live the good life here.
  There are 3 Club members with-in 5 miles of each other here in western Arkansas. There's good reasons for that:

  Lots of reasonable priced homes and acreage, $100,000 will buy much land with nice home and barn. If you have much money, we have properties up to $1 mil and more.
  Great southern people.
  NO zoning! Build a barn, shop, storage shed, whatever. Want to collect cars, line them up, it's your land.
  Vehicle 25 years or older? 1 time registration fee of $10., for permanent tags.
  Trailer? Permanent tags $35., one time. (can't transfer it to a new trailer)
  Car tags $22, trucks $27
  Central to the country. Many places to go to with-in a days drive.
  A hotbed of cars. Street rods, customs, antiques, trucks, everywhere.
  Christian Motorcycle Assn.'s headquarters is here. So we have hundreds of wonderful hogs, trikes, custom bikes, here in town several times a year and the riders are really nice people.
  NO emissions laws! Newspapers, Mags, glass, steel cans, all go to charity. Alum cans sell for 35 cents a pound. Table scraps go to compost. We burn the rest, including leaves and slash from the property.

  Let me know, I know some great agents, Ray
  Ray Jones, Mena, AR in the Ouachita Mountains in western Arkansas
  Y'all com'on down and we'll sit ona porch and sip a few.

  On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Roger Schaaf wrote:


    Bob is correct.  We all like the environment.  But many of these fools are
    extremists and their costs to Californians and our economy is in the
    billions of dollars each and every year.  In the Bay area where I live(San
    Francisco Bay area) our air was considered far cleaner then Federal
    Standards.  Thru some backroom trading via our local Politicos the decision
    was made that our current semi annual smog check methods were not draconian
    enough.  So now we must go thru a check that requires your auto to me
    connected and check on a chassis dyno and a cost that is perhaps double what
    it was before.  My local Jaguar dealer(most people who own Jags are to
    oblivious to realize the screwing they get at every visit) charges 300.00
    for this.  The local smog station charges only 60 bucks(still a rip)
    thankfully.  However my point is that dyno checking is totally unwarranted
    and accomplishes zilch, nada, nothing to the well being of the Bay area
    inhabitants.  My 3 late model cars always measure 0 0 0 for the Nox, Co and
    Hydrocarbons(may be some other checks, which I forget).  But I and the
    millions who live here must go thru this every couple of years to appease
    these extremists.  Thankfully my Corvette is a 1971 and my B is old enough
    so they do not have to go thru this stuff.  I do feel sorry for Bob and
    others who must go thru this crap just to appease some Morons who make these
    laws and those who vote for them.  Just as I said earlier, these decisions
    are made my miscreants whose scientific knowledge does not even include
    knowing that the 24 hour cycle of night and day is a result of the rotation
    of the earth on its axis.

    Also we now have been able to get rid of the white elephant of MTBE, but now
    are forced to use Ethanol(which I have discussed before) which is a result
    of the Farm State lobbies(like Nebraska where I am from).  Again stupid
    moronic decisions that cost this country billions each year and do nothing
    to for any of us except that those who benefit financially(for example
    farmers, and smog check stations, and those who build their equipment, and
    Politicos who get money from those buying the votes).

    As Pogo has said, "we have met the enemy and the enemy is us".
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: "Chrysler 300" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:52 AM
    Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Gas Chemistry


    >
    > Steve and list,
    >
    > I live in California I see Ray's post as being very germane to the
    interests of this board. You've really struck a nerve here, and as a
    California car hobbyist I can readily tell you I support Ray's position.
    Yes, the air is cleaner and that is a very good thing, but if it was left up
    to CARB and the Sierra Club, we would all be driving electric cars and
    bicycles, and living in high density apartments.  CARB is a government
    bureaucracy that must constantly find new ways to generate revenue for
    itself by forcing the liberal environmentalist agenda down our throats,
    whether it makes sense or not.
    >
    > Take a look at the MTBE scandal.  CARB, with the full support of the
    Sierra Club, pushed through the requirement for adding MTBE to California
    gas while the conservatives, (yes there are some in CA) supported by
    experts, (Dr. Bill Wattinberg for one) advised against it, citing studies
    done in other states on MTBE negative effects.  The tree huggers knew better
    of course, and MTBE became a requirement, polluting the groundwater as a
    result.  It has now been removed from the gas, now that "they" know better.
    >
    > California smog laws are draconian and getting worse. What happened to our
    promised-by-law 25 year rolling exception for older cars that would have
    exempted them from smog testing?  Well, it was changed to a 30 year
    exemption, and just 3 months ago, under pressure from CARB and the Sierra
    Club, the 30 year rolling exemption was eliminated entirely!  From now on,
    any car built from 1976 on will have to be smogged, forever, period! No
    exceptions. Even if you drive the car 10 miles a year! The worst part of it,
    is that you can never do any modifications to the engine of the car ever.
    No non-stock carburetor changes, air cleaners, nothing. It must stay stock,
    forever.
    >
    > Case in point.  I owned a very low mileage 1979 MGB that I enjoyed
    immensely, and I was looking forward to the day that I could get rid of the
    crappy factory Zenith carb that is difficult to keep in tune, and inadequate
    for the demands of the engine.  I was planning on installing the Weber
    upgrade kit that included a new intake manifold, Weber carb and header pipe.
    I was anxious to get more reliability, better mileage, and more performance.
    That has all changed now because of CARB and the Sierra Club pressure to
    eliminate the rolling 30 year exemption. Oh, and guess what...I only drove
    the car about 1,000 miles a year.  I'm sure my little MGB was a major
    contributor to global warming, and the we know whats-best-for-everyone
    mentality of the Sierra club members are happy that my MGB will no longer be
    polluting California's air, because I sold it on eBay to a collector in St.
    Louis.  One other point...my last smog test with the MGB was a CARB Dyno
    required test, not the static tests it always managed to pass before, and
    the price doubled to $90 as well.
    >
    > This topic is of importance to this list.  It is important because if we
    as car collectors are not vigilant, and if CARB, the Sierra Club, and other
    tree huggers have their way, our right to drive our 300s freely as we please
    will be taken away and our cars turned into static displays, being trailered
    to car shows.
    >
    > The car collector has NO friends within CARB and the Sierra Club.  As far
    as I'm concerned, they are the enemy and the sooner we all realize it, the
    better off we will be.
    >
    > Bob Jasinski
    > Danville, CA (Near the Blackhawk museum, with many beautiful static car
    displays)
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