Sounds like many are not happy with the way life is. Well fellows, we live the good life here. There are 3 Club members with-in 5 miles of each other here in western Arkansas. There's good reasons for that: Lots of reasonable priced homes and acreage, $100,000 will buy much land with nice home and barn. If you have much money, we have properties up to $1 mil and more. Great southern people. NO zoning! Build a barn, shop, storage shed, whatever. Want to collect cars, line them up, it's your land. Vehicle 25 years or older? 1 time registration fee of $10., for permanent tags. Trailer? Permanent tags $35., one time. (can't transfer it to a new trailer) Car tags $22, trucks $27 Central to the country. Many places to go to with-in a days drive. A hotbed of cars. Street rods, customs, antiques, trucks, everywhere. Christian Motorcycle Assn.'s headquarters is here. So we have hundreds of wonderful hogs, trikes, custom bikes, here in town several times a year and the riders are really nice people. NO emissions laws! Newspapers, Mags, glass, steel cans, all go to charity. Alum cans sell for 35 cents a pound. Table scraps go to compost. We burn the rest, including leaves and slash from the property. Let me know, I know some great agents, Ray Ray Jones, Mena, AR in the Ouachita Mountains in western Arkansas Y'all com'on down and we'll sit ona porch and sip a few. On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Roger Schaaf wrote: > Bob is correct.? We all like the environment.? But many of these fools > are > extremists and their costs to Californians and our economy is in the > billions of dollars each and every year.? In the Bay area where I > live(San > Francisco Bay area) our air was considered far cleaner then Federal > Standards.? Thru some backroom trading via our local Politicos the > decision > was made that our current semi annual smog check methods were not > draconian > enough.? So now we must go thru a check that requires your auto to me > connected and check on a chassis dyno and a cost that is perhaps > double what > it was before.? My local Jaguar dealer(most people who own Jags are to > oblivious to realize the screwing they get at every visit) charges > 300.00 > for this.? The local smog station charges only 60 bucks(still a rip) > thankfully.? However my point is that dyno checking is totally > unwarranted > and accomplishes zilch, nada, nothing to the well being of the Bay area > inhabitants.? My 3 late model cars always measure 0 0 0 for the Nox, > Co and > Hydrocarbons(may be some other checks, which I forget).? But I and the > millions who live here must go thru this every couple of years to > appease > these extremists.? Thankfully my Corvette is a 1971 and my B is old > enough > so they do not have to go thru this stuff.? I do feel sorry for Bob and > others who must go thru this crap just to appease some Morons who make > these > laws and those who vote for them.? Just as I said earlier, these > decisions > are made my miscreants whose scientific knowledge does not even include > knowing that the 24 hour cycle of night and day is a result of the > rotation > of the earth on its axis. > > Also we now have been able to get rid of the white elephant of MTBE, > but now > are forced to use Ethanol(which I have discussed before) which is a > result > of the Farm State lobbies(like Nebraska where I am from).? Again stupid > moronic decisions that cost this country billions each year and do > nothing > to for any of us except that those who benefit financially(for example > farmers, and smog check stations, and those who build their equipment, > and > Politicos who get money from those buying the votes). > > As Pogo has said, "we have met the enemy and the enemy is us". > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Chrysler 300" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:52 AM > Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Gas Chemistry > > > > > > Steve and list, > > > > I live in California I see Ray's post as being very germane to the > interests of this board. You've really struck a nerve here, and as a > California car hobbyist I can readily tell you I support Ray's > position. > Yes, the air is cleaner and that is a very good thing, but if it was > left up > to CARB and the Sierra Club, we would all be driving electric cars and > bicycles, and living in high density apartments.? CARB is a government > bureaucracy that must constantly find new ways to generate revenue for > itself by forcing the liberal environmentalist agenda down our throats, > whether it makes sense or not. > > > > Take a look at the MTBE scandal.? CARB, with the full support of the > Sierra Club, pushed through the requirement for adding MTBE to > California > gas while the conservatives, (yes there are some in CA) supported by > experts, (Dr. Bill Wattinberg for one) advised against it, citing > studies > done in other states on MTBE negative effects.? The tree huggers knew > better > of course, and MTBE became a requirement, polluting the groundwater as > a > result.? It has now been removed from the gas, now that "they" know > better. > > > > California smog laws are draconian and getting worse. What happened > to our > promised-by-law 25 year rolling exception for older cars that would > have > exempted them from smog testing?? Well, it was changed to a 30 year > exemption, and just 3 months ago, under pressure from CARB and the > Sierra > Club, the 30 year rolling exemption was eliminated entirely!? From now > on, > any car built from 1976 on will have to be smogged, forever, period! No > exceptions. Even if you drive the car 10 miles a year! The worst part > of it, > is that you can never do any modifications to the engine of the car > ever. > No non-stock carburetor changes, air cleaners, nothing. It must stay > stock, > forever. > > > > Case in point.? I owned a very low mileage 1979 MGB that I enjoyed > immensely, and I was looking forward to the day that I could get rid > of the > crappy factory Zenith carb that is difficult to keep in tune, and > inadequate > for the demands of the engine.? I was planning on installing the Weber > upgrade kit that included a new intake manifold, Weber carb and header > pipe. > I was anxious to get more reliability, better mileage, and more > performance. > That has all changed now because of CARB and the Sierra Club pressure > to > eliminate the rolling 30 year exemption. Oh, and guess what...I only > drove > the car about 1,000 miles a year.? I'm sure my little MGB was a major > contributor to global warming, and the we know whats-best-for-everyone > mentality of the Sierra club members are happy that my MGB will no > longer be > polluting California's air, because I sold it on eBay to a collector > in St. > Louis.? One other point...my last smog test with the MGB was a CARB > Dyno > required test, not the static tests it always managed to pass before, > and > the price doubled to $90 as well. > > > > This topic is of importance to this list.? It is important because > if we > as car collectors are not vigilant, and if CARB, the Sierra Club, and > other > tree huggers have their way, our right to drive our 300s freely as we > please > will be taken away and our cars turned into static displays, being > trailered > to car shows. > > > > The car collector has NO friends within CARB and the Sierra Club.? > As far > as I'm concerned, they are the enemy and the sooner we all realize it, > the > better off we will be. > > > > Bob Jasinski > > Danville, CA (Near the Blackhawk museum, with many beautiful static > car > displays) > > > > > > > > > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > For list server instructions, go to > http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > > Yahoo! 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