Re: [Chrysler300] Gas chemistry

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 Ray, I don' t know where you live, but it probably isn't California.  Those of us who live here are grateful for the substantial improvement in air quality over the last 20 years.  Despite enormous growth and vehicle miles travelled, air quality has steadily improved.  As a person who is involved in setting vehicle tailpipe standards, all I can say about your comments is that you do not have your facts right, either about scrappage or stationary source emissions or credit programs.  I won't go into the details because it rarely helps when someone has their mind made up.  Not everyone is as stupid as you might think.  Nor is government as corrupt as you suggest.  Those of us in this field are doing all we can to improve air quality in an open deliberative process.  Perhaps on to other topics more germane to the purpose of this board.
Steve Albu

---- Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
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> The real secret is that the Tree Huggers and other environmental groups 
> consist of 3 wacky Scientists , and thousands of rumor loving idiots. 
> All  with good intentions, of course.
> For 20 years we've had constant improvement in Auto emissions, until 
> cars almost run on smog, but they still want more. It all hides the 
> truth that the biggest producers are the power plants and other big 
> industry. They, unlike you and me, contribute heavily to the political 
> campaigns and there-by get waivers. Our gas just goes up.
> A few years ago, Readers Digest had a story about power companies that 
> sold unused emission credits. If  they didn't produce a certain 
> chemical in their exhaust, they could sell that  to a plant that 
> produced too much of that chemical, there-by averaging the emissions. 
> This was also the basis of the CA junker buying campaign. Give you some 
> money for your old broke car and get credit for the inflated amounts of 
> emissions not produced by the car for the next 10 years. Then they just 
> gave the Gov the credits instead of fixing their emission problem.
> Sort of like Social Security, it's not going to run out of money, there 
> is none, just IOU's for the money the Gov has spent for the last 30 
> years.
> 
> Ray
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> It's getting time for y'all to be polishing up your rides for the 
> Spring Meet! Be there, or be Square!  Ray
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> On Jan 4, 2005, at 4:59 PM, L.Andrew Jugle wrote:
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> > Isn't MTBE Methyl Tert-Butyl Ethanol???The secret is to get as many
> > complex bonds to condition the fuel rather than explode. Tetra Ethyl
> > Lead was an additive that slowed combustion allowing short chain
> > hydrocarbons in higher compression fuel mixes without pre-detonating
> > allowing longer chain hydrocarbons to burn at same time. TEL helped
> > stabilize cracked long chains in synthetic fuels by giving longer
> > shelf life...about two weeks!!
> >
> > Research numbers are results of comparing fuel explosions in
> > comparison to pure octane (thought to be the ultimate "pure fuel"
> > hydrocarbon). The single cylinder "engine" is fired and height of
> > free piston determines the rating as compared to octane reading
> > as "100".ÂÂ Since the tree huggers could not fathom the
> > concept "octane rating" is now legislated. Try as they might, the
> > environmentalists cannot seem to re-write the laws of thermodynamics.
> >
> > The primary difference of classic 60's Sunoco 260 and
> > todays "Premium" is that modified long chain hydrocarbons aren't
> > there. The fuel physically has less weight. More heat energy is
> > produced and lost to engine and less energy is transffered to pistons.
> >
> > Miles per gallon have been sacrificed to butterfly breath.
> >
> > L. Andrew Jugle, Elmhurst,IL.
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