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There are 6 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Ever wonder why Michigan is so loyal to the Big 3?
From: "Wieland, Elizabeth" <EWieland@xxxxxxxxxx>
2. I knew I was gonna get in thouble
From: " Jim McMullan" <macthehammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: I knew I was gonna get in thouble
From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
4. re vacuum plating
From: "Fern Rivard" <crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: Re: Fuel and Related
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Who knows WWW (radial) Dayton tire ?
From: Philippe COURANT <accf_clb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:35:12 -0400
From: "Wieland, Elizabeth" <EWieland@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Ever wonder why Michigan is so loyal to the Big 3?
I received this from Phil Kuyava. Thought it was interesting enough to pass
along ~ even though it doesn't address 300s! I'm not sure who he got if
from but ...
After seeing a short news listing on "CNN Headline News" regarding Ford and
GM's
contributions to the relief and recovery efforts in New York City and
Washington D.C., I was prompted to see what the other automotive companies
were contributing. I have never worked for an automotive company - nor has
anyone in my family. It is, however, the prominent industry here in
Michigan. I also feel it is important to know which companies are there for
us in a crisis.
I went to (the news, press release and philanthropic areas of) each of the
companies' web sites. If the company had several sites, I tried to visit
them all. Additionally, I visited the leading news and automotive sites.
As of today, one week since the attacks, this is what I have found:
Aston Martin - Nothing.
Audi - Nothing. Audi's web site states "Audi News: Always up to the
minute."
BMW - Nothing despite other press releases/postings since 09/11/01 BMW's
web site states "The news service from the BMW Group: Fast, informative and
comprehensive." Last updated 09/13/01.
Daewoo International - Nothing.
Daimler Chrysler (includes Dodge, Jeep, Mercedes-Benz and Plymouth) $10
million to support the children and victims in addition to other donations
from their employees, dealers and suppliers.
Fiat - Nothing.
Ford Motor Company (includes Jaguar, Lincoln, Mazda, Mercury and Volvo) $1
million to the American Red Cross, matching employee contributions to the
American Red Cross and 10 Excursions to the New York Fire Department. The
company has also offered emergency response team services and office space
to displaced government employees.
General Motors (includes Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Oldsmobile,
Pontiac,Saab and Saturn) - $1 million to the American Red Cross, matching
employee contributions and a fleet of vans, trucks and SUVs.
Honda (includes Acura) - Nothing. Honda's site states, "If you're looking
for the latest developments taking place at Honda, you've come to the right
place" and "Informative.
Timely. Credible. The latest news on Honda can always be found right
here?" No press releases/postings since 09/04/01 when the release boasted
"American Honda Motor Co., Inc. recorded its second best sales month ever in
August." My search included:
hondamotorcycle.com (other press releases posted on this site since
09/11/01), honda.com, honda2001.com, world.honda.com, acura.com and
honda.co.jp.
Hyundai Motors Group (includes Kia) - $300,000 to the American Red Cross.
Isuzu - Nothing.
Mitsubishi Motors - Nothing. Mitsubishi-motors.co.jp site states, "The
latest news about Mitsubishi Motors." I also searched mitsubishimotors.com.
Nissan - Nothing despite other press releases/postings since 09/11/01.
Porsche - Press release with condolences posted on the Porsche web site on
09/12/01, but no contribution.
Subaru - Nothing despite other press releases/postings since 09/11/01.
Suzuki - Nothing.
Toyota (includes Lexus) - Press release with condolences posted on the
Toyota web site on 09/14/01, but no contribution, despite earlier press
releases boasting that Toyota had high sales in July and August.
Volkswagen - The employees and management created a Foundation, funded
initially with $2 million, to assist the children and victims with
humanitarian help including medical and psychological assistance,
rehabilitation and scholarships.
I can only hope that it is an oversight by the companies that have not made
a contribution and that they will join the relief efforts. We have the
freedom to choose which companies we make purchases from and I, for one,
will make my purchases from and give my money to the companies that are
giving their money to America at this time of need. I hope that you will,
too.
Please forward this e-mail - especially to anyone you know who is thinking
of purchasing a vehicle.
Remember this the next time you make that move to buy your next car...New or
used.....
Who gave what to help OUR Beautiful United States of America.........
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:49:51 -0700
From: " Jim McMullan" <macthehammer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: I knew I was gonna get in thouble
Since I joined the club 6 months ago I've figured out that are at least
three de stink groups.There are the purists that want there cars exactly like
they came from the factory.The people that just appreciate the old iron.And the
performance nuts that want theirs to run better and stop better than stock.When
Chrysler decided to build the 300 letter cars they aimed at a specific group
namely the young executives who had come up driving full load flat heads in
little roadsters and coupes. They were tired of getting blown off by
corvettes in there buicks and cads.Much success but a small market! Now the
guest ion is what would they have done to the cars if they had the benefits of
the technology over the last 40+ years? Surly they would have gone with 4 wheel
disks-Mabey with A,B.S. and H.R.D. ignition computer timed would have been
a must.I think if they could have spent the money they would not put the
weight on the axles shaft but on the axle housing .Re full floters.And of
course fuel injection (in its infant icy at the time)would have solved the
inherent problems of the carbs.You people who live in the flat land like the mid
west and even south calif don't under stand what its like to drive 60 miles to
the nearest big city (Stockton) and change 3000 feet in altude.Yes I usually
take a truck.But sometimes it would be nice to dust off the 300! I promise to
keep the F looking stock. And hope theirs room in the club for at least one
nut.Love and respect all of you and what your doing please leave some room for
me .Jim
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:30:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andy Mikonis <r41hp@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: I knew I was gonna get in thouble
Hey, I love all you modification type people, too,
almost as much as I love having this argument. So
please don't think I'm mad when you read this. Sure,
the 300s would have had the latest technology, but
these things didn't exist for production use,
therefore they are inappropriate for these cars. If
you want a fuel-injected disc brake screamer with
clearcoat paint, go buy a new 'vette. Seriously, they
are amazing cars, and will cost about the same as
really nice F. In the meantime where is your
reverence for history and the people who built these
cars? Isn't it a matter of pride to have one of these
cars running on its original technology. I've driven
my G across the country on breaker point ignition,
climbed the Rockies with crossrams, and descended the
Rockies with center plane brakes, thank you. I think
it's amazing a 40 year-old, largely unrestored car can
do this. Maybe you old coots are sick of working on
points and carbs. I think it's fun. If I don't do it
who will do it in 30 years? I know there are lots of
professional mechanics my age who have never set
points before. What about the people who designed
these cars? I bet they think they did a great job,
and you want to make it "better" by cobbling on a
bunch of parts never intended for that car? Why can't
you people respect these cars for what they are???? If
they're so inadequate in your mind, maybe there's a
better car out there for you. Really. And Mac, if you
can rebuild a turbine, I'm sure you can 12 mpg out of
AFBs. I'm an ex-college boy and self-taught wrench,
and I can. If you guys want to modify a tailfin
Chrysler so bad, why not do it to a Windsor or
something? It's your car you can do what you want,
but I just want you to think about it. There are only
so many Fs to go around.
Cheerfully yours,
Andy
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:45:43 -0600
From: "Fern Rivard" <crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: re vacuum plating
I finally remembered to phone Mr. Chuck VanderByl of C.V. Plastics
Plating in Mission, B.C. (near Vancouver BC) during normal working hours and
here is his web site:
www.cvvacuumplaters.com
His email address is cvplastc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Chuck did some of this vacuum plating for me several years ago for some of
my Chryslers and also my 65 gto conv. It has stood up very well.
Also remember that you are dealing with canadian money so you gain a lot
on the exchange.
Best regards from Fern and all have a nice week end as we are
having our Thanksgiving this coming monday.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 18:13:44 -0400
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Fuel and Related
Roger,
I too would hate to see a rare cross ram system destroyed. I also replied to
Jim's inquiry note and suggested that he consider replacing the carburetors
with a pair of Holley TPI injectors. This would preserve the cross rams (and
the carburetors) and provide easier tunability. Parts for these old carbs
are very scarce and worn components like throttle shafts or step-up piston
bores are very difficult to service. If the carbs run as poorly as Jim
indicated they probably need more repair than just a Zip-Kit.
I didnt get a reply from Jim but, like you, I hope he considers some other
path. LGJ
>From: RAKFAR@xxxxxxx
>To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [Chrysler300] Re: Fuel and Related
>Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 01:08:50 EDT
>
>In a message dated 10/4/2001 2:14:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
><< A b/map sensor will solve the main
> problem.But that means F/I .The throttle body F/I would be a way to go
> but balance with two on long rams is something I don't want to even
> think about.I suppose one could split the system and run it as two 4
>cyl.engines
> with 2 of everything (oxy.-maps-temp-knock-sensors ect.) But E.F.I sounds
>like a
> better way to go.Sort of hate to drill the long rams for the injectors
>but I
> have a spare set and the holes can always be plugged and tigg weleded.I
>prickled
> the engine when I put it away so when I tear it down will go with the
>hard
> seats. >>
>
>
>To Jim McMullan:
>
> I apologize in advance if I am somewhat confused, but I
>seem
>to have joined this conversation in mid-stream. Having said that, let me
>next
>ask (with all due respect), what the HECK do you think you are doing???
>
> Why would you want to mess us a perfectly nice 300F long
>ram
>car with some kind of kluged-up, cockamamie fuel injection system that
>probably won't work right, and shouldn't be necessary anyway?
>
> I own a 300F myself with original long ram and Carter
>AFB's,
>and it runs like a freight train on 92 octane pump gas without
>modifications
>or additives of any kind. Starts, idles, and pulls strong to max revs
>without
>any problem whatsoever. The secret? When the engine was overhauled a few
>years back, we dropped the compression ratio to 9.2 to 1 (from the stock
>10.2
>to 1). Computer simulations indicate that change cost me about 10-12
>horsepower, no more.
>
> If you absolutely don't want to run your original dual
>Carter
>AFB's (some people can't seem to get them tuned; I don't know why), then
>put
>them aside and get yourself a pair of new Edelbrock AFB clones. I know a
>Hemi
>restorer who swears by them for Hemis, and will use nothing else.
>
> If you can't bear lowering your compression to 9.2 (and
>the
>loss of 12 horsepower, which you can make up in a variety of ways, like
>mild
>porting), and you absolutely insist on having high (10:1 or more)
>compression, then get yourself a simple water injection unit and tap it
>into
>your manifold in some hidden place where it will feed both banks equally
>(heck, you could probably feed it into a crossover tube from underneath and
>nobody would be the wiser). With a simple, properly set-up water injection
>unit, you could probably go as high as 13 to 1 on pump gas, if you wanted.
>
> But for heaven's sake, don't butcher your crossram. You'll
>probably live to regret it, and if you don't, the next dozen owners after
>you
>WILL. I guarantee it.
>
> 300F'ly,
>
> Roger Karlson
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 01:03:36 +0200
From: Philippe COURANT <accf_clb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Who knows WWW (radial) Dayton tire ?
I've a friend who wants but 235 75 R 15 Dayton radial tires (WWW)
for his '54 Imperial. Who knows this brand ? Better than Coker
radial ?
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Philippe COURANT (Pau, France)
Imperial 57 Crown convertible
Buick 58 Roadmaster sedan
- American Car Club de France (ACCF) : http://www.accf.com
- Chrysler Imperial France : http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f
- Cadillac " Standard of Excellence " :
http://www.ifrance.com/accf-cad
- SportsCars : http://www.ifrance.com/accf-sprtcar
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