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Topics in this digest:
1. Re: 300C/D Patrol Cars
From: "Terry & Andree Hoeman" <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: 300M Special & Horsepower <LONG RANT>
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
3. Re: 300M Special & Horsepower
From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
4. Re: 300C/D Patrol Cars
From: xringer45@xxxxxxx
5. 300G remote mirror disassembly methods
From: "skyhawk" <skyhawk@xxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: 300M Special & Horsepower
From: "Magik Draggin'" <longrammopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
7. My slant on the new 300
From: "D. Moore" <dintym@xxxxxxxxx>
8. Mirror Disassembly
From: Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
9. RE: 300C/D Patrol Cars
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
10. [Fwd: pic of new 2002 chrysler new yorker]
From: hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx
11. Fw: [FWDLK] Engine knock
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 06:59:46 -0600
From: "Terry & Andree Hoeman" <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300C/D Patrol Cars
Just occurred to me---I had a 66 charger with the 361 and it was correct as
I remember. Had bought a pair of 66s from Dodge Dealer in North Platte Ne
and sold the 361 car off and kept the one with the 383 though!!
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300C/D Patrol Cars
> I had a '62 Newport Conv. that had a 361 engine it. So it was still
> available in 1962.
>
> Dan Reitz
> Northridge, CA
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:59:46 EST
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 300M Special & Horsepower <LONG RANT>
In a message dated 11/2/2001 12:57:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> I'm just as proud of my M as I am my C and all of the other cars that I now
> and have had the good fortune of owning. Can I pick just one of them out
> as my favorite? No. I liked them all for various reasons (and again YES
> even the Gremlin!) I don't think we can compare the old with the new.
> They're just different! I appreciate them for what they were in history,
> and know that I'm making today's history!
>
> Best Regards to all,
>
>
> Thomas F. Miller
>
Great message Tom - I think you make a very valid point. Unfgortunately,
they probably won't produce another fire breathing 4300 pound behemoth, even
if they could sell a bunch of them, but I agree that some of the newer cars
are very bit as good, although different.
Pete Fitch
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:28:31 -0500
From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300M Special & Horsepower
Hi Tom,
Really enjoyed your message which compared the different eras of cars that
you have owned (or still do). Excellent perspective on the changes that
have taken place over the years.
Don Warnaar
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:02:18 EST
From: xringer45@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 300C/D Patrol Cars
Hello,
The 361 engine was alive & well after 62. I have a '66 Dodge Coronet
Convert that has it, allbeit a 2 barrel version.
Lee (F&D)
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:02:49 -0500
From: "skyhawk" <skyhawk@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300G remote mirror disassembly methods
Hello 300 members,
Can anyone advise the disassembly method used for the remote control outside mirror used on the 300G...I need to take mine apart for rechroming. Please reply directly so as not to clog the listserver.
Thanks.
dennis cloer newton, nc
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 15:04:21 -0600
From: "Magik Draggin'" <longrammopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 300M Special & Horsepower
If I may, I would like to attempt to clarify my position on this matter.
I am by no means suggesting the "M" is not a fine automobile. Having had
the priviledge of test driving one recently, and having owned a
couple-year-old 300G back in the '60s, I can honestly say there is really no
comparison when it comes to handling and smoothness and quietness of ride
and all the other amenities that have become important to new-car buyers
over the past 40 years.
All I was addressing with my rant concerning my present "G" compared to the
"M", is straight-line acceleration and nothing else. Honestly, the only
thing my "G" can do better than the "M" besides out accelerate it, is garner
a lot of enthusiastic thumbs up from appreciative bystanders and other
drivers. Nobody honked and waved at me while I was driving the "M" around
town.
Just felt like I needed to set the record straight where I was coming from
on this.
Karl
>From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
>To: tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300M Special & Horsepower
>Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:28:31 -0500
>
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>Really enjoyed your message which compared the different eras of cars that
>you have owned (or still do). Excellent perspective on the changes that
>have taken place over the years.
>
>Don Warnaar
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:26:25 -0800 (PST)
From: "D. Moore" <dintym@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: My slant on the new 300
I'd still like to see a rear-wheel drive, hemi car
built by Chrysler. (Note the "D" word is missing.)
Not until I see a 6000 horsepower, top fuel dragster
built with front wheel drive will I come around to
viewing a car with FWD as a real car.
Dave Moore
--- Magik Draggin' <longrammopar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> If I may, I would like to attempt to clarify my
> position on this matter.
>
> I am by no means suggesting the "M" is not a fine
> automobile. Having had
> the priviledge of test driving one recently, and
> having owned a
> couple-year-old 300G back in the '60s, I can
> honestly say there is really no
> comparison when it comes to handling and smoothness
> and quietness of ride
> and all the other amenities that have become
> important to new-car buyers
> over the past 40 years.
>
> All I was addressing with my rant concerning my
> present "G" compared to the
> "M", is straight-line acceleration and nothing else.
> Honestly, the only
> thing my "G" can do better than the "M" besides out
> accelerate it, is garner
> a lot of enthusiastic thumbs up from appreciative
> bystanders and other
> drivers. Nobody honked and waved at me while I was
> driving the "M" around
> town.
>
> Just felt like I needed to set the record straight
> where I was coming from
> on this.
>
> Karl
>
> >From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
> >To: tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300M Special &
> Horsepower
> >Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:28:31 -0500
> >
> >
> >Hi Tom,
> >
> >Really enjoyed your message which compared the
> different eras of cars that
> >you have owned (or still do). Excellent
> perspective on the changes that
> >have taken place over the years.
> >
> >Don Warnaar
> >
> >
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 18:15:26 -0800
From: Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Mirror Disassembly
Dennis,
You said:
<Can anyone advise the disassembly method used for the remote control outside mirror used on the 300G...I need to take mine apart for rechroming. Please reply directly so as not to clog the listserver>
The purpose of this board is to disseminate information. I for one, would never consider the posting of the answer to this question to the list as "clogging the listserver" If information like this is known, let's get it out so everyone can benefit. I have seen other good questions posted, that as far as I know, never got answered. I suspect the answers went directly to the requester only and lost to the group as a result. I have a delete key and I don't mind using it, that's what it is there for.
Bob J
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 22:23:47 -0500
From: "Laurence G. Johnson" <laurence_g_johnson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 300C/D Patrol Cars
All,
Yes, the 361 was available in 1962 in Dodge, Plymouth and Chryslers. Here
are the spec for these engines from the NHRA Classification Guide:
HP Disp Mfg C.R.Ind.Make Model/Trans Manifold Lifter Head cc
265 361 C 9.00 1-2 Stro WWC3-201/or BBD-3245S 1.50 H 73.5
305 361 DP 9.00 1-4 Cart AFB3252S/S,3253S/AUTO 1.50 H 66.5
HP Disp Mfg Deck Type Valves Cam Lift Gasket Springs
265 361 C .047 Flat 1.94/1.60 398/396 .028 Outer Only
305 361 DP .020 Flat 1.94/1.60 444/456 .028 Outer w/Damp
I owned a 1962 Dodge Polara 500 with the 305hp 361. The single four barrel
was very small and the performance was somewhat less than spectacular. The
earlier 361's had, in some cases, 10-1 CR and even dual four barrel carbs.
One of my friends in highschool had a 1959 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer with
the 305hp 361. It took premium fuel and it flat flew in that big heavy boat.
It would go 14 sec ET's on street tires. So even a 361 could be
formidable. LGJ
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>Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300C/D Patrol Cars
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>The 361 Ram D500 option was the "standard" ram available on the '60 Dodge,
>with the 383 Ram as an option. I don't believe the (that) 361 was still
>available in 62, having been displaced (replaced) entirely by the 383.
>
>Karl
>
> >From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300C/D Patrol Cars
> >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:00:24 -0500
> >
> >some odd questions:
> >Was there indeed a 361 crossram available? Is this the same block-type
>that
> >later was used in the '62 inline dual quad Polaras, etc? Thanks
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jess [mailto:jdmiklas@xxxxxxx]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:10 PM
> >To: DAN300F@xxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; moparpjf@xxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300C/D Patrol Cars
> >
> >
> >MANY years ago I dismantled a 1960 OHIO State Patrol Car.
> >It was a full size DODGE - a DART or a PHOENIX 4-door sedan - with a 383
> >crossram engine. It had a lot of heavy duty "police goodies" but I swear
> >it
> >had only a TWO-SPEED automatic trans (Only 4 buttons) Been told many
>times
> >that I'm wrong but didn't keep the transmission. Of course wish NOW I had
> >kept the car intact.
> >
> >Jeff Miklas
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <moparpjf@xxxxxxx>
> >To: <DAN300F@xxxxxxx>; <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:10 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300C/D Patrol Cars
> >
> >
> > > HI Guys:
> > >
> > > I know that the NJ troopers used the cross ram set up in 1964, and
>I
> >know
> > > a trooper who drove them then, but I think thr cars were all 4 door
> >models,
> > > as are virtually all police cars. I think they had our engines in the
> >four
> > > door models, along with the heavy duty suspension, etc. Probably cost
> >as
> > > much as a letter car, but they were utilitarian vehicles, nonetheless.
> > >
> > > Pete Fitch
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 23:10:18 -0600
From: hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Fwd: pic of new 2002 chrysler new yorker]
Well Gang, this certainly ought to crush the competition!
Ray Jones
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:46:35 +1300
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fw: [FWDLK] Engine knock
Hi everyone,
below is a problem a friend his having with his motor, I apologise for the fact that it is not a 300, but he could do with as many leads on the cause as possible.I figure the combined knowledge of the 300 list will solve the mystery.
Thanks for all help.
Owen
A few weeks ago I started up my fully rebuilt 57 Fury V-800 318 for the first time, which is installed in my rebuilt Fury chassis with Torqueflite trans.
First impressions were good news, except for an engine noise that at first sounded like it was coming from the fuel pump area. However after trying other fuel pumps, and then investing in a mechanics stethoscope, it was apparent that the noise was actually coming from the sump, and there is absolutely no noise whatsoever coming from the head area. And the noise was getting worse the longer I ran the engine.
I have run the engine a total of 3 times, on seperate days, and every time, the engine purred like a kitten on initial start up, sounds perfect, and then the noise comes along after about 30 seconds.
I had the engine rebuilder come and listen, and again it ran real smooth for 30 seconds until the noise started, and then we ran it for maybe 2 minutes while he was tring to figure out where the noise was coming from. We removed plug leads hoping it would tell us which cylinder was the problem, and this did not make the noise go away. By this time the noise was sounding real nasty, so we shut it down and agreed that the engine had to come out for inspection.
Prior to initial start up I had 40 pounds pressure on cranking, and then 65 pounds when running.
My sump plug has a magnet, and when I drained the oil there was nothing apparent on the magnet.
The rebuilder removed the sump the following day, and the worst news of all is that there is nothing visible wrong with the engine. All bearing clearances are perfect, there is plenty of clearance in the sump for the oil pickup, no marks on the sump, and the crankshaft was crack tested. Everything seems OK.
We do not want to remove the heads if we don't have to, and besides, the stethoscope clearly showed that the noise was coming from down low.
The company that rebuilt my engine is a well equipped shop with a good reputation. They are scratching their heads big time!
The real strange thing, and maybe the biggest clue, is that this noise comes along only after about 30 seconds running from cold.
Thanks in advance for any clues.
Glenn Barratt,
57 Fury,
Auckland, New Zealand.
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