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Topics in this digest:
1. H Convert in Video
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
2. Re: gassy vinyls
From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
3. (no subject)
From: joeypilot@xxxxxxx
4. Re: gassy vinyls
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: MetalCrafters
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
6. MetalCrafters - reply
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. RE: MetalCrafters - reply
From: "George McKovich" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: MetalCrafters - reply
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: MetalCrafters - reply
From: "Charlie Valentine" <cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx>
10. 300 G Convertible for Auction 2/03 Atlantic City
From: NPetros17@xxxxxxx
11. Re: 300 G Convertible for Auction 2/03 Atlantic City
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
12. Re: MetalCrafters - reply
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:11:37 EST
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: H Convert in Video
Hi group:
Just saw a Travis Tritt video called "Strong Enough to be Your Man"
which featured 2 H convertibles. One was white and the other turquoise. One
had black upholstery, but the way it was shot, you couldn't tell which one
(or both). Just thought I would mention it, and ask if these cars belonged
to any of you.
Pete Fitch
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:14:05 -0600
From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gassy vinyls
You guys are all wrong about "stinky" vinyl! There's no better smell in
the whole world than a brand new doll! Right, Girls? :)
Sue Larson
On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:07:23 -0600 Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
writes:
> Jeff and all;
> A new car with a leather or cloth interior has a wonderful smell,
> vinyl
> Stinks.
> Ray Jones
>
> > From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:26:38 -0700 (MST)
> > To: groveautomotive@xxxxxx (Dave Grove Grove Automotive)
> > Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx (Paul
> Martin)
> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] gassy vinyls
> >
> > its amazing, here evryone is busy complaining about the NEW
> > CAR smell..
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> > JEFF
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:05:01 EST
From: joeypilot@xxxxxxx
Subject: (no subject)
Meguiars #40 conditioner is the best that I have used so far.
Joe Schmitt
G H/T
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:46:56 -0600
From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: gassy vinyls
Maybe some of the guys will agree!
Ray
> From: Marshall Larson <yelof@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:14:05 -0600
> To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] gassy vinyls
>
> You guys are all wrong about "stinky" vinyl! There's no better smell in
> the whole world than a brand new doll! Right, Girls? :)
>
> Sue Larson
>
> On Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:07:23 -0600 Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> writes:
>> Jeff and all;
>> A new car with a leather or cloth interior has a wonderful smell,
>> vinyl
>> Stinks.
>> Ray Jones
>>
>>> From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:26:38 -0700 (MST)
>>> To: groveautomotive@xxxxxx (Dave Grove Grove Automotive)
>>> Cc: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, paul_martin78ca@xxxxxxxx (Paul
>> Martin)
>>> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] gassy vinyls
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>>> its amazing, here evryone is busy complaining about the NEW
>>> CAR smell..
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>>> tucson az.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:16:03 -0800
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetalCrafters
I was told by a Auto Restorer(who many of you know) friend of mine, when I had mentioned to him about 30 days ago that MetalCrafters had developed a lower panel replacement for the 300 C, that these guys were flakes and that he would believe it when he saw them, and if he saw them he would he very skeptical of the quality.
----- Original Message -----
From: George McKovich
To: Chrysler 300 Broadcast
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:02 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters
I am beginning to think that lower real quarter panels for our 57-59
letter cars are a figment of our imagination. As best I can determine,
NOBODY has yet received any in hand from these people and try as I might
as well as at least two other member have, they will not put phone calls
through to the responsible party at their end, nor will they return
phone calls.. What is going on at MetalCrafters??? How did the Club get
mixed-up with these characters??? Have they charged anyone's credit card
for these parts yet???
I would like to get pleasantly surprised by hearing that anyone has
received their parts and more pleasantly surprised by getting a return
phone call from anyone at MetalCrafters.
That's my 2 cents worth.
George
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 17:40:23 -0500
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: MetalCrafters - reply
Obiwan,
Sounds to me like your friend has MetalCrafters confused with someone else.
MetalCrafters has not, so far, manufactured repro panels or any repro parts,
for sale to the public. Rather they make one-off show cars for
DaimlerChrysler and others. They only agreed to do these panels as a favor
to D/C thanks to some serious prodding from D/C brass... more info about
the company can be found on their web site: http://www.metalcrafters.com/ .
Sure doesn't sound like flakes to me. Not that I am endorsing the quality of
their product - haven't seen any yet, nor heard from anyone who has !
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "obiwan10"
> I was told by a Auto Restorer(who many of you know) friend of mine, when I
had mentioned to him about 30 days ago that MetalCrafters had developed a
lower panel replacement for the 300 C, that these guys were flakes and that
he would believe it when he saw them, and if he saw them he would he very
skeptical of the quality.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 15:53:41 -0700
From: "George McKovich" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: MetalCrafters - reply
John and others....
A website is one thing but good and fair dealing with the public is
another. From my point of view, I am totally unimpressed with their
website.... it is just PR and nothing of use to our type of auto
enthusiast.
Whoever is handling this project for the Club needs to get on the ball
and get these character moving with some product and some customer
response.
George
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hertog [mailto:crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 3:40 PM
To: Chrysler 300 Club Listverver
Subject: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
Obiwan,
Sounds to me like your friend has MetalCrafters confused with someone
else.
MetalCrafters has not, so far, manufactured repro panels or any repro
parts,
for sale to the public. Rather they make one-off show cars for
DaimlerChrysler and others. They only agreed to do these panels as a
favor
to D/C thanks to some serious prodding from D/C brass... more info
about
the company can be found on their web site:
http://www.metalcrafters.com/ .
Sure doesn't sound like flakes to me. Not that I am endorsing the
quality of
their product - haven't seen any yet, nor heard from anyone who has !
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "obiwan10"
> I was told by a Auto Restorer(who many of you know) friend of mine,
when I
had mentioned to him about 30 days ago that MetalCrafters had developed
a
lower panel replacement for the 300 C, that these guys were flakes and
that
he would believe it when he saw them, and if he saw them he would he
very
skeptical of the quality.
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 23:19:39 -0800
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetalCrafters - reply
My friend is quite aware of MetalCrafters from previous dealings and he does not believe that he is confusing them with anyone. I showed him the photos of the prototype quarters on the website and he was immediately a skeptic. This was some 6 weeks or so ago. There also is a renown auto upholstery fabric manufacture in the Northwest US(WA) who he also has such an opinion of. Ordered and paid for up front upholstery fabric for his New Yorker and in some 3 years has yet to receive it. There are in this industry many frauds, scams and charlatans and many of our members have at one time or another been victim. In fact I suspect that most of us have been made promises that have been broken by some of these types of operatives. Incidentally my friend is located in Southern Calif and he among the best at what he does. Incidentally where is MetalCrafters located?
Perhaps we shall know more as this quarter panel project plays out.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hertog
To: Chrysler 300 Club Listverver
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
Obiwan,
Sounds to me like your friend has MetalCrafters confused with someone else.
MetalCrafters has not, so far, manufactured repro panels or any repro parts,
for sale to the public. Rather they make one-off show cars for
DaimlerChrysler and others. They only agreed to do these panels as a favor
to D/C thanks to some serious prodding from D/C brass... more info about
the company can be found on their web site: http://www.metalcrafters.com/ .
Sure doesn't sound like flakes to me. Not that I am endorsing the quality of
their product - haven't seen any yet, nor heard from anyone who has !
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "obiwan10"
> I was told by a Auto Restorer(who many of you know) friend of mine, when I
had mentioned to him about 30 days ago that MetalCrafters had developed a
lower panel replacement for the 300 C, that these guys were flakes and that
he would believe it when he saw them, and if he saw them he would he very
skeptical of the quality.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 07:51:24 -0800
From: "Charlie Valentine" <cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetalCrafters - reply
Roger said "Incidentally where is MetalCrafters located?"
I need not any of these panels and do indeed know absolutely nothing about
MetalCrafters but I did indeed do a simple search and found out their
address.
MetalCrafters
11161 Slater Ave
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
Sure some of you may have needed these panels yesterday but it looks like
they are not available for sale yet. Will they ever be? Who knows? Is it
possible that they might have other more important projects, contracts and
other commitments than these panels? We can only hope that this panel
project really happens but for now lets all be a little PATIENT. Or maybe we
can all flood them with calls and emails, get them really MAD and then they
can scratch the whole project and any future projects.
Perhaps someone on the left coast who lives nearby could stop in for a
friendly visit and get a feel for their projection on this panel project.
This would certainly help a lot of members who need these panels an give
them some absolute answers.
Just my 300 cents worth.
Charlie Valentine, Pennsylvania
Black 300G (Project, need help)
Red 62 Sport Convertible
61 New Yorker and Newport
----- Original Message -----
From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300 Club Listverver" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John
Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
> My friend is quite aware of MetalCrafters from previous dealings and he
does not believe that he is confusing them with anyone. I showed him the
photos of the prototype quarters on the website and he was immediately a
skeptic. This was some 6 weeks or so ago. There also is a renown auto
upholstery fabric manufacture in the Northwest US(WA) who he also has such
an opinion of. Ordered and paid for up front upholstery fabric for his New
Yorker and in some 3 years has yet to receive it. There are in this
industry many frauds, scams and charlatans and many of our members have at
one time or another been victim. In fact I suspect that most of us have
been made promises that have been broken by some of these types of
operatives. Incidentally my friend is located in Southern Calif and he
among the best at what he does. Incidentally where is MetalCrafters
located?
>
> Perhaps we shall know more as this quarter panel project plays out.
>
> Roger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Hertog
> To: Chrysler 300 Club Listverver
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:40 PM
> Subject: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
>
>
> Obiwan,
>
> Sounds to me like your friend has MetalCrafters confused with someone
else.
> MetalCrafters has not, so far, manufactured repro panels or any repro
parts,
> for sale to the public. Rather they make one-off show cars for
> DaimlerChrysler and others. They only agreed to do these panels as a
favor
> to D/C thanks to some serious prodding from D/C brass... more info
about
> the company can be found on their web site:
http://www.metalcrafters.com/ .
> Sure doesn't sound like flakes to me. Not that I am endorsing the
quality of
> their product - haven't seen any yet, nor heard from anyone who has !
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "obiwan10"
>
>
> > I was told by a Auto Restorer(who many of you know) friend of mine,
when I
> had mentioned to him about 30 days ago that MetalCrafters had developed
a
> lower panel replacement for the 300 C, that these guys were flakes and
that
> he would believe it when he saw them, and if he saw them he would he
very
> skeptical of the quality.
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 09:04:11 EST
From: NPetros17@xxxxxxx
Subject: 300 G Convertible for Auction 2/03 Atlantic City
Hello
In case anyone is interested, there is a black G convertible listed for
sale at the Atlantic City Auction, 2/03
Photo:
<A HREF="" href="http://www.acclassiccars.com/images/vehicles/762.jpg">http://www.acclassiccars.com/images/vehicles/762.jpg">Click here: http://www.acclassiccars.com/images/vehicles/762.jpg</A>
Home Page:
http://www.acclassiccars.com/vehicles.html
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 09:37:38 EST
From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 300 G Convertible for Auction 2/03 Atlantic City
In a message dated 12/08/2002 9:05:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,
NPetros17@xxxxxxx writes:
>
> In case anyone is interested, there is a black G convertible listed for
> sale at the Atlantic City Auction, 2/03
>
>
Unless I am mistaken, that G convertible is the same one that was at
Carlisle last summer. The seller was asking $56,000.00 for it. It might be
interesting to see what it brings in Atlantic City. Also, while I hesitate
to mention this (because since I got mine, they are springing up all over the
place) the paint code on that G is RR1, meaning that, in fact, it is a
repainted cinnamon car.
Pete Fitch
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 09:52:43 -0800
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetalCrafters - reply
I have to agree on Charlie that we should be patient with metalcrafters
about the reproduction quarters. They obviously have more important projects
going on, and aren't in the business of making reproduction parts for a
living. Since they are doing prototype cars for the big three, they probably
have there hands full with the new car introductions only a month away. I
don't see anyone else volunteering to do 57 - 59 quarters, or anything else
for our old Chryslers for that mater. They should however at least return
calls and give some idea of when they will be done.
300ly,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Charlie Valentine <cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Chrysler 300 Club Listverver <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; John Hertog
<crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; obiwan10 <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
> Roger said "Incidentally where is MetalCrafters located?"
>
> I need not any of these panels and do indeed know absolutely nothing about
> MetalCrafters but I did indeed do a simple search and found out their
> address.
>
> MetalCrafters
> 11161 Slater Ave
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
>
> Sure some of you may have needed these panels yesterday but it looks like
> they are not available for sale yet. Will they ever be? Who knows? Is it
> possible that they might have other more important projects, contracts and
> other commitments than these panels? We can only hope that this panel
> project really happens but for now lets all be a little PATIENT. Or maybe
we
> can all flood them with calls and emails, get them really MAD and then
they
> can scratch the whole project and any future projects.
>
> Perhaps someone on the left coast who lives nearby could stop in for a
> friendly visit and get a feel for their projection on this panel project.
> This would certainly help a lot of members who need these panels an give
> them some absolute answers.
>
> Just my 300 cents worth.
>
> Charlie Valentine, Pennsylvania
> Black 300G (Project, need help)
> Red 62 Sport Convertible
> 61 New Yorker and Newport
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "obiwan10" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Chrysler 300 Club Listverver" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John
> Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
>
>
> > My friend is quite aware of MetalCrafters from previous dealings and he
> does not believe that he is confusing them with anyone. I showed him the
> photos of the prototype quarters on the website and he was immediately a
> skeptic. This was some 6 weeks or so ago. There also is a renown auto
> upholstery fabric manufacture in the Northwest US(WA) who he also has such
> an opinion of. Ordered and paid for up front upholstery fabric for his
New
> Yorker and in some 3 years has yet to receive it. There are in this
> industry many frauds, scams and charlatans and many of our members have at
> one time or another been victim. In fact I suspect that most of us have
> been made promises that have been broken by some of these types of
> operatives. Incidentally my friend is located in Southern Calif and he
> among the best at what he does. Incidentally where is MetalCrafters
> located?
> >
> > Perhaps we shall know more as this quarter panel project plays out.
> >
> > Roger
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Hertog
> > To: Chrysler 300 Club Listverver
> > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 2:40 PM
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] MetalCrafters - reply
> >
> >
> > Obiwan,
> >
> > Sounds to me like your friend has MetalCrafters confused with someone
> else.
> > MetalCrafters has not, so far, manufactured repro panels or any repro
> parts,
> > for sale to the public. Rather they make one-off show cars for
> > DaimlerChrysler and others. They only agreed to do these panels as a
> favor
> > to D/C thanks to some serious prodding from D/C brass... more info
> about
> > the company can be found on their web site:
> http://www.metalcrafters.com/ .
> > Sure doesn't sound like flakes to me. Not that I am endorsing the
> quality of
> > their product - haven't seen any yet, nor heard from anyone who has !
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "obiwan10"
> >
> >
> > > I was told by a Auto Restorer(who many of you know) friend of mine,
> when I
> > had mentioned to him about 30 days ago that MetalCrafters had
developed
> a
> > lower panel replacement for the 300 C, that these guys were flakes and
> that
> > he would believe it when he saw them, and if he saw them he would he
> very
> > skeptical of the quality.
> >
> >
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