Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge
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Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge



A big public "thank you" to Bill for sharing with us his wealth of information!

--Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56 Plymouth, '66 Plymouth, '41 Dodge

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge


Sad, but true.

Unfortunately, I do not have enough production information to do a book on
it.  But, I will continue to share what I have.

Bill
Vancouver, BC



----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Howard" <roger.d.howard@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge


Bill,
As I read your post, the thought occurred to me..why not publish or sell
this information you have collected, and then, as I read on,  I realised
why
you can't get others "in the know" to divulge their acquired
information...money.
roger
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge


> Collectible Automobile did an article on the 1957-59 Dodges, complete
with
> production figures. The article was written by Mr. Jeffrey I. Godshall,
> whose "daytime" job is interior stylist at DaimlerChrysler. Thus he > has
> access to records in various departments and knows quite a few persons
who
> either work at DC now or in the past.   Mr. Godshall has written
excellent
> articles for CA on various Chrysler makes over the years and has
included
> production figures and photos of styling department models.as the car
> designs progress.
>
> Getting back to the original quesiton, the lack of numbers for 1956 to
> 1970
> Dodges is not due to the fact they are not available, it is due to the
> fact
> no one has bothered to dig them out.
>
> Dodge production figures from 1930 through 1955 first appeared in "The
> Production Figure Book For U.S. Cars" by Jerry Heasley, published by
> Motorbooks International in 1977.  The Plymouth, Dodge and DeSoto
figures
> were supplied by the late Don Butler, author of "The Plymouth and > DeSoto
> Story", 1978.  At the time Mr. Heasley's book was written, 1955 was as
far
> as Mr. Butler had gotten.
>
> In Mr. Heasley's book, the 1939 model D13 and 1951-52 model D39 are for
> Canadian-built Plymouth-sized Dodges (1939 DeLuxe Six and 1951-52
> Kingsway).
> The book did not print the production numbers for the 1939 D11D (Luxury
> Liner DeLuxe) which has resulted in more than one author to claim
various
> 1939 models, such as the long-wheelbase models, were not built.   The
> numbers for the 1949 model D30 are missing the long-wheelbase sedan.
> Again,
> instead of approaching Chrysler Historical and asking for the 1949
> production nunbers, writers have just regurgitated Mr. Heasley's > numbers
> and
> declared that no LWB 1949 Dodges were built.  That many can remember
> seeing
> them on the road over the years is apparently ignored. When I moced > to
> Vancouver in 1994 there was a 1949 Dodge D30 Custom (as the Coronet was
> sold
> in Canada) LWB sedan in a yard east of Edmonton.
>
> Consumer's Guide published "Cars of the 50's" and "Cars of the 60's" in
> the
> late 1970's.  Both were less than 100 pages and included production
> figures
> at the back of the book.  These figures were by series / model and not
by
> body style.  Again, these figures are quoted time and again by writers,
> including Consumer's Guide themselves, and no one has asked Chrysler
> Historical to do a bit of digging.  The information is there, just that
no
> one has taken the time to do retrieve them.
>
> By the way, old car clubs for Plymouth, DeSoto and the W.P.C. club have
> published some excellent histories along with production figures.  I
have,
> thus, been able to acquire the production figures for 1939 Dodge, all
> models, plus 1941 Dodge, 1954 Dodge, 1960 Valiant and the 1962-65
> 880/Custom
> 880.    Awhile ago I acquired some photcopies of Chrysler production
> reports
> for 1965 to 1972 for cars built in the U.S. and Canada for sale in the
> U.S.
> I do not have figures for cars built for Canada for those years, sadly.
>
> C.A. also published articles on the 1960-61 and 1962-64 Dodges.  So I
have
> figures for those years. I actually have those figures broken by 6 > and
> V8,
> Canada and the U.S.   Plus after doing some digging I have been able to
> put
> together figures for 1956.   "The Dodge Story" had figures for the
> Coronets,
> convertibles and some wagons and I have been able to find numbers for
> other
> models in various articles.  By putting them all togather, I now have a
> complete listing.
>
> Unlike General Motors, Ford and Studebaker, finding Mopar body style
> production information is like finding hen's teeth.  The sad part about
it
> is that there are people outside Chrysler Historial who have complete
> information dating from the 1930's into the 1970's.   But these people
are
> not willing to share.   I've asked.
>
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge
>
>
>> Hey Bill -
>>
>> What is the source of your info ?  The Standard Catalog of American
Cars,
>> published by Old Cars Weekly, says there is no breakout by model.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge
>>
>>
>> > He is partially right - there were 2,151 Coronet SIX 2-door hardtops
> biilt
>> > in 1959
>> >
>> > For 1959 Dodge 2-door hardtops -
>> > Coronet 6 -  2,151
>> > Coronet V8 - 19,283
>> > Royal - 3,483
>> > Custom Royal - 4,693
>> > Total - 39,610
>> >
>> > A further 1,585 Custom Royal 2-door hardtops were built in Canada
>> >
>> > Bill
>> > Vancouver, BC
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Larry Ashbaugh
>> > To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:35 PM
>> > Subject: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge
>> >
>> >
>> > This eBay seller says that there were only 2151 Coronet 2dr HTs >> > built
>> > in
>> > 1959.  That is insane.  Anyone know the true numbers?  Also, does
that
>> > engine look like a 326?
>> >
>> >
>>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Dodge-Coronet-2-Door-Hardtop-one-of-only-2-151_W0QQitemZ280009155128
>> >
>> >
>> > Larry (Akron)
>> >
>
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