A big public "thank you" to Bill for sharing with us his wealth of
information!
--Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56 Plymouth, '66 Plymouth, '41 Dodge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge Sad, but true. Unfortunately, I do not have enough production information to do a book on it. But, I will continue to share what I have. Bill Vancouver, BC----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Howard" <roger.d.howard@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 DodgeBill, As I read your post, the thought occurred to me..why not publish or sell this information you have collected, and then, as I read on, I realisedwhyyou can't get others "in the know" to divulge their acquired information...money. roger----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge > Collectible Automobile did an article on the 1957-59 Dodges, completewith> production figures. The article was written by Mr. Jeffrey I. Godshall,> whose "daytime" job is interior stylist at DaimlerChrysler. Thus he > has> access to records in various departments and knows quite a few personswho> either work at DC now or in the past. Mr. Godshall has writtenexcellent> articles for CA on various Chrysler makes over the years and hasincluded> production figures and photos of styling department models.as the car > designs progress. > > Getting back to the original quesiton, the lack of numbers for 1956 to > 1970 > Dodges is not due to the fact they are not available, it is due to the > fact > no one has bothered to dig them out. > > Dodge production figures from 1930 through 1955 first appeared in "The > Production Figure Book For U.S. Cars" by Jerry Heasley, published by > Motorbooks International in 1977. The Plymouth, Dodge and DeSotofigures> were supplied by the late Don Butler, author of "The Plymouth and > DeSoto> Story", 1978. At the time Mr. Heasley's book was written, 1955 was asfar> as Mr. Butler had gotten. > > In Mr. Heasley's book, the 1939 model D13 and 1951-52 model D39 are for > Canadian-built Plymouth-sized Dodges (1939 DeLuxe Six and 1951-52 > Kingsway). > The book did not print the production numbers for the 1939 D11D (Luxury > Liner DeLuxe) which has resulted in more than one author to claimvarious> 1939 models, such as the long-wheelbase models, were not built. The > numbers for the 1949 model D30 are missing the long-wheelbase sedan. > Again, > instead of approaching Chrysler Historical and asking for the 1949> production nunbers, writers have just regurgitated Mr. Heasley's > numbers> and > declared that no LWB 1949 Dodges were built. That many can remember > seeing> them on the road over the years is apparently ignored. When I moced > to> Vancouver in 1994 there was a 1949 Dodge D30 Custom (as the Coronet was > sold > in Canada) LWB sedan in a yard east of Edmonton. > > Consumer's Guide published "Cars of the 50's" and "Cars of the 60's" in > the > late 1970's. Both were less than 100 pages and included production > figures > at the back of the book. These figures were by series / model and notby> body style. Again, these figures are quoted time and again by writers, > including Consumer's Guide themselves, and no one has asked Chrysler > Historical to do a bit of digging. The information is there, just thatno> one has taken the time to do retrieve them. > > By the way, old car clubs for Plymouth, DeSoto and the W.P.C. club have > published some excellent histories along with production figures. Ihave,> thus, been able to acquire the production figures for 1939 Dodge, all > models, plus 1941 Dodge, 1954 Dodge, 1960 Valiant and the 1962-65 > 880/Custom > 880. Awhile ago I acquired some photcopies of Chrysler production > reports > for 1965 to 1972 for cars built in the U.S. and Canada for sale in the > U.S. > I do not have figures for cars built for Canada for those years, sadly. > > C.A. also published articles on the 1960-61 and 1962-64 Dodges. So Ihave> figures for those years. I actually have those figures broken by 6 > and> V8, > Canada and the U.S. Plus after doing some digging I have been able to > put > together figures for 1956. "The Dodge Story" had figures for the > Coronets, > convertibles and some wagons and I have been able to find numbers for > other > models in various articles. By putting them all togather, I now have a > complete listing. > > Unlike General Motors, Ford and Studebaker, finding Mopar body style > production information is like finding hen's teeth. The sad part aboutit> is that there are people outside Chrysler Historial who have complete > information dating from the 1930's into the 1970's. But these peopleare> not willing to share. I've asked. > > Bill > Vancouver, BC > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:17 AM > Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge > > >> Hey Bill - >> >> What is the source of your info ? The Standard Catalog of AmericanCars,>> published by Old Cars Weekly, says there is no breakout by model. >> >> Ron >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>>> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:05 AM >> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge >> >> >> > He is partially right - there were 2,151 Coronet SIX 2-door hardtops > biilt >> > in 1959 >> > >> > For 1959 Dodge 2-door hardtops - >> > Coronet 6 - 2,151 >> > Coronet V8 - 19,283 >> > Royal - 3,483 >> > Custom Royal - 4,693 >> > Total - 39,610 >> > >> > A further 1,585 Custom Royal 2-door hardtops were built in Canada >> > >> > Bill >> > Vancouver, BC >> > >> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Larry Ashbaugh>> > To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:35 PM >> > Subject: [FWDLK] What are build numbers for 59 Dodge >> > >> >>> > This eBay seller says that there were only 2151 Coronet 2dr HTs >> > built>> > in >> > 1959. That is insane. Anyone know the true numbers? Also, doesthat>> > engine look like a 326? >> > >> > >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Dodge-Coronet-2-Door-Hardtop-one-of-only-2-151_W0QQitemZ280009155128>> > >> > >> > Larry (Akron) >> > > > ************************************************************* > > To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to > http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1 ************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1 ************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1
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